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Originally Posted by pan6467
How is it property if everyone is paying for it in taxes?
I'm sorry but the whole "taxes" are MY money and I pay too much is disturbing to me. The rich pay far less than ever and if the tax rate bothers you so much then get industry in here that will pay workers decent wages and increase the tax bases.
Oh I forgot that doesn't increase anything. Even though better paying jobs promotes more mom and pop shops which helps drive local economies, which helps the states which helps the Fed. but the Right doesn't seem to ever want to believe that.
Taxes are to move civilization and our country forward and to better ourselves. The right has proven they are no better at keeping a balanced budget and spending tax money as the left.
Both sides promote their own pork and free spending.
Seriously, the argument "it's my money" is thin. It's my money also, why should my tax dollars go to a war I don't believe in and not towards education or universal healthcare for which I do believe in?
It's all about who is in power as to where the money goes. We have to pay taxes, we may not like it, we may think we pay too much but I'm sure you use all the government programs and luxuries they provide without hesitation. It's just some people have other needs and use different programs. But we all use the programs out there in some fashion.
You don't want to pay taxes, then don't use any of the programs.
Grow your own food and make your own drugs otherwise you are using the FDA.
Don't drive on any roads or walk on any sidewalks because that was paid for by taxes and government.
Don't use any utilities because in some way they use government funding, make you own clothing from materials you make, as government programs helped the companies that do make those products.
Don't read or write, go to church or educate your children, because you're using freedoms that the government paid military protects.
Don't drink the water or breathe the air because the EPA keeps it clean....
See how ridiculous arguing how taxes are too high is?
One can argue the government is involved in too much, but that's politics one side cuts programs their constituency wants cut and increases the spending their side uses more of.
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You spent a lot of time arguing against positions I never took.
I don't think that taxation should be eliminated. I just think we need to limit the things taxpayer money is spent on. We shouldn't eliminate fundings for the police/military/fire departments (these are used to directly protect the rights of citizens), or roads or power lines, etc. (used by police/military/fire departments to protect our rights).
What I do believe:
We need a flat tax.
The purpose of taxation is to provide the financial resources the government needs to protect our individual rights. It's not about compassion or the "common good".
Way too much money is spent on crap that has no direct relation to protecting the rights of Americans, and this needs to stop.