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Originally Posted by irateplatypus
i'm sorry my canadian friend... but this is precisely the mentality that i detest among my own countrymen.
let's just re-iterate...
- no one gets free healthcare
- while you pay taxes, YOU are the government. ergo, YOU pick up the tab.
- ok, so the insurance companies are off the hook because everyone gets healthcare, now you're stuck paying it directly.
in an aggregate sense, no one saves money. the only difference is the redistribution of wealth to provide a flatter net wealth curve.
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people go round and round on this issue, but often fail to see the very fundamental worldview issue at stake. it all boils down to a single problem "is it just for the government to force you to pay for the healthcare of another?"
or its variant "is it just to force another to pay for your own healthcare needs?"
that's it. that's all there is to it. you have to answer both "yes" to be an intellectually honest proponent of such a system. i'd like to hear any poster justify such a position.
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See but your side offers no solution and in the end the wealthy pay for it anyway and we bankrupt society.
I find it a pathetic and selfish display of ego to say that people who cannot afford healthcare do not deserve it, and that is what you are indeed saying.
And by your example it is ok to pay billions to a company like Haliburton for military supplies that our military never recieves or recieves late, or to allow them to overcharge for fuel?
I have a feeling if we asked Americans to vote where their taxes would go ..... far more would vote for universal healthcare than for any other purpose.
It is becoming a serious issue and the Right cannot keep hiding from it much longer, it is on it's way to becoming THE biggest issue. If the GOP leaders show the compassion and care towards others that your post displayed..... then they will lose. They had better come up with a plan because in '06 and '08 this issue will be what drives Americans to the polls.
BTW I pay taxes, and I would have no problem with a healthcare system based on ability to pay or a universal system. I do however have problems with my money going to companies that rip off the US military in times of war, or a government that closes VA Hospitals and cuts veteran benefits promised to them, while giving themselves pay raises and making sure they get the best healthcare on my tax dollars.