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Originally Posted by KingOtter67
Interesting thread, but I'm afraid in this instance I'm going to have to apply Occam's Razor. If the easiest explanation is that a 757 crashed into the Pentagon, then I believe it.
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When the facts are in contrast to what you mighty consider the easiest explaination, it ceases to be the most likely explaination and thus Occam no longer applies.
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Concerning the 'nosecone' and the hole punched through... nobody said that a plastic nosecone punched through that interior wall. All they said is that a hole was made. Kinetic energy, concrete, debris could easily have been propelled fast enough to do something like that without the plane actually physically blasting through. Think about Newtonian laws of motion.
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But why was it so curcular? The simplest answer is something that is cylindrical and very, very hard. Occcam says: a missle is the most likely reason, not coincedental debreis.
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The Pentagon had just finished rennovations to contain fire, and explosions. We're not talking about the drywall and steel interior of the WTC's here. We're talking about basically an above ground bunker with steel-reinforced concrete.
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Then what was able to puncture clear though all the rings and create that infamous hole?
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When people attempt to do comparisons, they try to avoid naming the actual object. For instance 'that tornado sounded like a freight train!' It would be silly to say 'that tornado sounded like a tornado'. Plus, I doubt that many people actually know what a missile sounds like. I'm sure it probably doesn't sound like a movie missile, since movie gunshots sound nothing like real gunshots.
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Agreed. The people sayting it sounded like a missle is far from proof.
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Like it was said before, airplanes are made to fly. They aren't made to be bunker busters. Remember the flight in Florida that crashed into the Everglades in a virtually nose-down position? Very little of that plane was found, and it certainly didn't burn up, and it crashed into mud, not concrete.
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Don't you think the wing of a plane hitting the side of a building would break the glass?
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The world doesn't always conform to our expectations. So sometimes, our expectations must conform to the world.
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It is possible, and not improbable, that our government has the want, the means, and the testicular fortitude to lie to us. Is it not reasonable to include that in drawing conclusions about what we hear from them?
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Oh, and before I go, dismissing someone's argument and saying 'You just don't have an open mind' isn't real good sportmanship. Because what you're basically doing is saying that their arguments aren't worth your time, and thus, closing your mind to their side. And that doesn't benefit anyone.
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Circular time...but aren't you dismissing someone simply because they dismissed someone else? Just kidding.
If you click the paranoia buttton, you should know that anything and everything you read will require an open mind. That being said, I welcome any sceptics (or realists, if you prefer).