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KingOtter67 · 06-07-2005, 08:57 AM

Interesting thread, but I'm afraid in this instance I'm going to have to apply Occam's Razor. If the easiest explanation is that a 757 crashed into the Pentagon, then I believe it.

Concerning the 'nosecone' and the hole punched through... nobody said that a plastic nosecone punched through that interior wall. All they said is that a hole was made. Kinetic energy, concrete, debris could easily have been propelled fast enough to do something like that without the plane actually physically blasting through. Think about Newtonian laws of motion.

The Pentagon had just finished rennovations to contain fire, and explosions. We're not talking about the drywall and steel interior of the WTC's here. We're talking about basically an above ground bunker with steel-reinforced concrete.

When people attempt to do comparisons, they try to avoid naming the actual object. For instance 'that tornado sounded like a freight train!' It would be silly to say 'that tornado sounded like a tornado'. Plus, I doubt that many people actually know what a missile sounds like. I'm sure it probably doesn't sound like a movie missile, since movie gunshots sound nothing like real gunshots.

Like it was said before, airplanes are made to fly. They aren't made to be bunker busters. Remember the flight in Florida that crashed into the Everglades in a virtually nose-down position? Very little of that plane was found, and it certainly didn't burn up, and it crashed into mud, not concrete.

The world doesn't always conform to our expectations. So sometimes, our expectations must conform to the world.

Oh, and before I go, dismissing someone's argument and saying 'You just don't have an open mind' isn't real good sportmanship. Because what you're basically doing is saying that their arguments aren't worth your time, and thus, closing your mind to their side. And that doesn't benefit anyone.

06-07-2005, 08:57 AM	#273 (permalink)
KingOtter67 Upright	Interesting thread, but I'm afraid in this instance I'm going to have to apply Occam's Razor. If the easiest explanation is that a 757 crashed into the Pentagon, then I believe it. Concerning the 'nosecone' and the hole punched through... nobody said that a plastic nosecone punched through that interior wall. All they said is that a hole was made. Kinetic energy, concrete, debris could easily have been propelled fast enough to do something like that without the plane actually physically blasting through. Think about Newtonian laws of motion. The Pentagon had just finished rennovations to contain fire, and explosions. We're not talking about the drywall and steel interior of the WTC's here. We're talking about basically an above ground bunker with steel-reinforced concrete. When people attempt to do comparisons, they try to avoid naming the actual object. For instance 'that tornado sounded like a freight train!' It would be silly to say 'that tornado sounded like a tornado'. Plus, I doubt that many people actually know what a missile sounds like. I'm sure it probably doesn't sound like a movie missile, since movie gunshots sound nothing like real gunshots. Like it was said before, airplanes are made to fly. They aren't made to be bunker busters. Remember the flight in Florida that crashed into the Everglades in a virtually nose-down position? Very little of that plane was found, and it certainly didn't burn up, and it crashed into mud, not concrete. The world doesn't always conform to our expectations. So sometimes, our expectations must conform to the world. Oh, and before I go, dismissing someone's argument and saying 'You just don't have an open mind' isn't real good sportmanship. Because what you're basically doing is saying that their arguments aren't worth your time, and thus, closing your mind to their side. And that doesn't benefit anyone. __________________ KingOtter You can't push on a rope.