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pan6467 · 06-06-2005, 01:45 PM

I don't think I would ever change sides. I'm too socially liberal and I truly dislike how much power the Religious Right wields in the GOP, not to mention the economics, but that is for a different thread.

Up until the headhunters started calling for judges heads, I never believed judges to be truly liberal or conservative, but they formed differing ideas from differing sources on law and personal studies.

However, now, I truly have to believe this case was lost because of Bush and the Religious Right. I also find it somewhat weird that Bush and the Religious right will now praise these "Liberal" judges for this ruling.

There are other ways for the feds to circumvent the voters, in the 80's Reagan threatened to withhold all federal monies to Ohio, Louisianna and 1 other state (can't remember which one) where the voters had lower than 21 drinking age laws (the people in Ohio voted overwhelmingly for 19 on beer), and Dem. Gov. Richard Celeste worked very hard and did everything he could to make sure the people's voices were heard, however in the end, the loss of Federal funding was too much and the law was moved to 21 WITHOUT a vote of the people.

I am surprised Bush didn't try to do this instead of having the SC do the dirty work and take the voters voice away.

06-06-2005, 01:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	I don't think I would ever change sides. I'm too socially liberal and I truly dislike how much power the Religious Right wields in the GOP, not to mention the economics, but that is for a different thread. Up until the headhunters started calling for judges heads, I never believed judges to be truly liberal or conservative, but they formed differing ideas from differing sources on law and personal studies. However, now, I truly have to believe this case was lost because of Bush and the Religious Right. I also find it somewhat weird that Bush and the Religious right will now praise these "Liberal" judges for this ruling. There are other ways for the feds to circumvent the voters, in the 80's Reagan threatened to withhold all federal monies to Ohio, Louisianna and 1 other state (can't remember which one) where the voters had lower than 21 drinking age laws (the people in Ohio voted overwhelmingly for 19 on beer), and Dem. Gov. Richard Celeste worked very hard and did everything he could to make sure the people's voices were heard, however in the end, the loss of Federal funding was too much and the law was moved to 21 WITHOUT a vote of the people. I am surprised Bush didn't try to do this instead of having the SC do the dirty work and take the voters voice away. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"