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Yakk · 06-06-2005, 09:37 AM

However, MU does simplify the concepts.

From Feynman "sum over all paths" -- want to find out the chance an electrion will hit your bullseye? Sum the electron's chance to hit the bullseye over all possible paths it could take from the source to the destination. In other words, 'pretend' that the electron took all paths. Or, being able to grasp intuitively where quantum computation gets it's computation (via communication through non-orthoginal quantum duplicates of the quantum computer), to avoiding a quantum-mechanical "non-information information faster-than-light subway" (by removing the need), to explaining what appears to be "quantum wave collapse".

There seems to be a blatant requirement:

Either you remove locality, and allow for a "quantum non-information information subway" that transmits just the right amount of non-information to keep the universe in sync at faster than light speeds in a non-causal manner (bye bye causality!), or you go with M-U.

Take two photons. Arrange it so they are entangled, say with polarization -- they are 90 degrees to each other, but their polarization is not determined and has not collapsed..

Seperate the two photons without observing them by 1 billion light years.

Examine each photon "at the same time". The two photons will be 90 degrees to each other.

The problem is, there is no order that makes any sense to which photon you examined first. The pair of events (the photons collapsing into one orientation or another) are not causally conntected, but the 'non-information information' that keeps then at 90 degrees to each other was somehow communicated.

So now you have time travelling packets of information that magically never make real information (to avoid contradiction) keeping the universe consistent.

Or, multiple universes. When you looked at one photon, you locally rotated yourself. You cannot see the universes in which the other photon is inconsistent, not because they don't exist, but because you are orthogonal to them and they cast little to no shadow on your reality.

MU gives us locallity of effect, explains what "quantum wave collapse" is, and changes the laws of QM from arbitrary things to a structure that comes from a whole.

Now, I'm not convinved MU is real. But it has alot of advantages over competing theories.

06-06-2005, 09:37 AM	#41 (permalink)
Yakk Wehret Den Anfängen! Location: Ontario, Canada	However, MU does simplify the concepts. From Feynman "sum over all paths" -- want to find out the chance an electrion will hit your bullseye? Sum the electron's chance to hit the bullseye over all possible paths it could take from the source to the destination. In other words, 'pretend' that the electron took all paths. Or, being able to grasp intuitively where quantum computation gets it's computation (via communication through non-orthoginal quantum duplicates of the quantum computer), to avoiding a quantum-mechanical "non-information information faster-than-light subway" (by removing the need), to explaining what appears to be "quantum wave collapse". There seems to be a blatant requirement: Either you remove locality, and allow for a "quantum non-information information subway" that transmits just the right amount of non-information to keep the universe in sync at faster than light speeds in a non-causal manner (bye bye causality!), or you go with M-U. Take two photons. Arrange it so they are entangled, say with polarization -- they are 90 degrees to each other, but their polarization is not determined and has not collapsed.. Seperate the two photons without observing them by 1 billion light years. Examine each photon "at the same time". The two photons will be 90 degrees to each other. The problem is, there is no order that makes any sense to which photon you examined first. The pair of events (the photons collapsing into one orientation or another) are not causally conntected, but the 'non-information information' that keeps then at 90 degrees to each other was somehow communicated. So now you have time travelling packets of information that magically never make real information (to avoid contradiction) keeping the universe consistent. Or, multiple universes. When you looked at one photon, you locally rotated yourself. You cannot see the universes in which the other photon is inconsistent, not because they don't exist, but because you are orthogonal to them and they cast little to no shadow on your reality. MU gives us locallity of effect, explains what "quantum wave collapse" is, and changes the laws of QM from arbitrary things to a structure that comes from a whole. Now, I'm not convinved MU is real. But it has alot of advantages over competing theories. __________________ Last edited by JHVH : 10-29-4004 BC at 09:00 PM. Reason: Time for a rest.