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Old 06-03-2005, 07:41 AM   #46 (permalink)
Mantus
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Stevo,

The Red Cross was the first to sound warning bells about torture at camp X-ray years ago. This certainly isn't something that sprung up out of the blue.

Amenesty International's latest report on US and torture focuses primarilly on how the govenment created an enviroment in which torture was acceptable and infact required and encuraged. It documents various steps the government took to either legalize or atleast muddy the laws and rules sorounding torture by US agents.

The accusations of torture in camp X-ray, Afghanistan and Iraq are not new. The AI report primarilly used existing evidence for it's report. Guantanimo Bay continues to be off limits and any practices within the walls of that compound are circumstantial. Yet the pile of evidence is rather comprehencive. From tweaks within the legal frame work to allow abuse of prisoners to apointment of Major General Geoffrey Miller in 2002 who was transfered in 2004 to Iraq and Guantanomized it's prisons.

As for the other abuse scandals. The Fay report among others confired existing evidence of torture in Aghani detainment camps since 2002. We all know what evidence came out of Iraq.

Thus it's a not just an accusation based on testimony of detainees. Further more, AI asks for further investigation into the mater and proper procecution of those responcible. Hense it asks for sanity and accountability of the US govenment.



Now people claim that the article which started this thread is bias but atleast it held some evidence (however questionable) to back up it's claims. The 11 pragraphs you posted are full of nothing but opinion, slander and lies.

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After all, Guantanamo Bay's guards are under the microscope of human-rights lawyers all the time.
Are they serious?! This is the exact oposite of the fact. Everyone wants the facts but the govenment is being very clandestine about the activities within camp X-ray.

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Besides, the 500-600 Guantanamo detainees wouldn't be there if Al Qaeda hadn't killed 2,948 Americans and others on Sept 11, 2001.
It's generalized statement such as this that seal the deal for the average joe. They are terrorists, thus they deserve nothing. The fact reamins that most of the people held in Guantanimo never had a proper trial or even a hearing. Neither they, nor we know exactly what some of those individuals are being held for. We can only asume they are all terrorists. But if they were all terrorist why have we released some 250+ of them?

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unnecessarily large amount of bungling by the Pentagon
I love how the pentagon has become the stooge of this administration. Oh that silly old pentagon fumbled it again, har-har-har. Shall we all forget that the administration has the power to punish the defence secritary who holds responcibility for the fumbles within that five cornered building and also hold the power to open investigations on any foul business comited by its agents?

Just some of the bull shit within that piece.
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