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Originally Posted by Mr Mephisto
That's categorically not what I said, or what I meant.
If you are familiar with UK politics, then Peter Mandelson fills a role similar to that of Rove. And he did it before Rove ever became (in)famous.
With regards to the Blair vs Bush argument, let's look at some specifics.
US public supported the war. Bush invaded.
US public supported the "war on terror". Bush initiated it.
UK public overwhelmingly opposed the war. Blair invaded.
UK public overwhelmingly believe the US "Ware on terror" is a crock of shit. Blair is an active ally in the so-called war.
So yes, Blair does what he thinks is right, regardless of public opinion. He got a very bloody nose in the recent election, proving that point.
Bush adopted populist politics, and modified his stance based upon appealing to particular groups; I accept everyone one does this, but I believe Rove pushed this further than heretofore.
Mr Mephisto
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So Blairs motive for invading Iraq was pure while Bush's was based on popularity politics? Yet it was Blair who joined Bush on this?
So either Blair is an honest idiot who followed Bush (I know that thought is popular among some) to war.
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Perhaps Bush did what he thought was best as well and it just so happens the American people supported it.
Regardless of motive though there is one thing I really find amusing, and that people keep trying to find the 'strings' on GWB. First it was Cheney, then after the 'surprising (to the press)' interim elections in 2002 it became Rove, he is the evil genius!
One thing that people need to come to grips with, is like him or loathe him, its Bush who is in charge, and as long as his political opponents underestimate him, they will continue to loose to him.