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Originally Posted by FoolThemAll
Well, what immediately comes to mind is that I don't think this has gotten nearly as much attention as the Shiavo case. Much, perhaps most, of the "silent approval" may come from people simply not knowing about this. People who don't watch/read/listen to the news at all knew about Shiavo.
But as for those who do know of it:
1. I think Ustwo's response is actually one likely possibility. Shiavo was life and death. This is case of religious freedom that I, myself, am not incredibly concerned with - I don't believe the infringement will survive and I think the damage will be nominal.
2. It's possible to hold the view that Wicca is a dangerous cult and that the judge in this case did the right thing, while also holding the view that the Florida judge legislated from the bench. I don't think this is correct, but I see a possible non-hypocritical assimilation of these views.
3. Yeah, there are probably hypocrites in this as well, people who neglected to sufficiently examine their positions or refuse to.
On a side-note, I lean towards both the "judge acted correctly" side and the "Shiavo should've lived" side. What gave me pause about the whole issue was that she only required what everyone else in the world requires - food and water. But enough of that, I don't want to derail the thread.
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Before this thread gets closed as it has deteriorated fast ..... shame too because answers like yours Fool are what I was looking for so that dialogue could open and we could understand maybe each other's side, without having to resort to insinuations, namecalling and yelling and such.
FOOL YOU HAVE TRULY EARNED MY RESPECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cyn: I am sorry if some of what I said complicates things for you and that you turned off. This is a very important issue to me, not because I am Wiccan, but because as I said my spirituality is unique to me.... someday I hope to have a child or 2 and teach my beliefs to him/her as well as other beliefs (one reason I go to a Unitarian Church to understand many religions and beliefs not just one).
As I have said the fact this could go on for a long time and bankrupt the parents into not being able to fight anymore, therefore allowing a precedent to be set is very scary. People need to see this and understand what is happening before it is too late.
Many of my posts were repetitive because some people kept choosing to insinuate Wicca as a cult, or bring the nudity into it or try to troll, change the subject etc. I was repetitive so as to keep the thread on track.... with some it worked and Dialogue could have been opened.... (have a feeling tho it is too late in this thread, tho.)
Don't let my passion and overzealous behavior turn you off to the truth though..... this is truly something that can have sever ramifications on everyone's rights.
One thing that scares me is IF and When this judgement gets overturned the appelate judges may tell other adjudicators exactly how to phrase the same ruling so that it will hold up.Again paranoia... but this day and age nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to our rights and freedoms).
Also I respond when challenged... I had one tell me I was a revisionist in this thread and I challenged where..... I never did get an answer. I had one tell me Mormons that are polygymous get the same rulings against them.... I challenged when and where show me the proof.... again the challenge went unanswered. It truly irks me when someone challenges me then when I respond asking for examples or proof they disappear or never mention it again.
Anyway... thanks to those who were productive, I did find a newfound respect for some here.
Roachboy..... your passion is great and strong never lose it, but learn how to use it better. As someone who learnt from mistakes.... never stoop to their level keep on topic and focussed.... You're a good man and I would hate to see you banned..... you have great debating skills..... use them wisely and you can go far