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Old 06-01-2005, 01:55 AM   #27 (permalink)
alansmithee
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Originally Posted by shakran
IMO Dean was infinitely more electable than Kerry. He has a personality, and there's no way he'd have stood there letting the Bush camp launch attack after attack with no rebuttals.

I agree that Dean would have been a better candidate, and also think he would have one. Really the only reasons I can see why Kerry got the nomination was due to the fact that he looked more "presidential". Kerry seemed to have far more negatives than Dean, didn't have the personality of Dean, and had a campaign team seemingly worse then Dean's.

And as for the launching attacks with no rebuttal, move on (.org).

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Originally Posted by shakran
The only trouble is that Bush and his fan club are so far to the right that just about anything looks leftist to them. Back during the campaign I had Bush workers tell me Reagan was far too liberal. Anyone that views Reagan as left of center has a grossly distorted notion of where center lies.

Just look at Iraq. If you're in favor of the war, you're a moderate conservative. If you're not entirely sure the war was such a hot idea, you're an unpatriotic leftist hippie who wants to get soldiers killed. The name calling from the right has stopped being seen as unusually childish and has become the norm. It's gotten to the point now where if people don't hide their liberal views, they're shunned.

It's a disgraceful situation, and frankly conservatives who participate in it should be ashamed. Somehow they've managed to trick the american people into thinking that petty insults and petulant name calling (freedom fries ringing any bells here?) are acceptable forms of political discourse. I, for one, will be happy when adult behavior resurfaces on the political scene.


Kettle: Hello Pot!

Pot: You're Black!

Suffice to say, I think your blindness to liberal attacks and use of the same tactics is suprising.

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I don't think Trump nor McCain could make a viable candidate. For every Dem vote McCain would gain, he would lose two Rep votes. Since his run in 2000, he's really disappointed me. I fully supported him then, I thought Bush was a horrible candidate in comparison. But it seems to me that McCain has become a much more polished politician, and spends too much time grabbing headlines. In 2000, he seemed outside of the system, now he's been assimilated. As for Trump, he has too much baggage. Also, he seems to have no qualifications for being president. He's great in real estate and self-promotion, but not else. If a businessman is what you want, I think Steve Forbes is a better choice personally.

Honestly, I think the republican nomination is going to be someone not on the radar just yet. And as for the Dems, everything now is pointing at hillary which makes me think its going to be someone else entirely, probably a southerner. Hillary has no chance in any of the "red" states, and would probably lose a couple of the blues as well.

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