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Old 05-31-2005, 04:32 AM   #36 (permalink)
alansmithee
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Originally Posted by pan6467
First did you read all my posts or just the ones that contained Bush's name????

Again, someone who obviously has not read the article where the father says he does not practice in the nude..... And if that were so offensive and the sole reason why didn't the judge put that into wording???????

Most Judges and law clerks (esp in a city the size of Indy) have some form of legal training and should know how to word rulings to express their true intent...... that being the case..... the true intent ( prohibits him and his ex-wife from exposing their child to "non-mainstream religious beliefs and rituals.") and it is very obviously a thumbing of the nose at the 1st Amendment.

Again another right winger who wants to point to posts that have Bush's name in them and cry Bush bashing and holding desperately to excuses for a judge's prejudicial ruling.

So now from the Right I have:

- Wicca insinuated as a cult,
- a fringe religion that people change like socks,
- compared to Heavens Gate
- then the press article itself was challenged
and now.....
- Bush bashing as the sole reason for this thread.
- and another who seems to want to use the "nudity" issue even though it has been shown where the father says he doesn't practice in the nude already.... in the articles and in posts.

Have yet to hear a Righty say that this ruling is flat assed wrong and not make excuses as to why the ruling is ok.........

Where are you Righties? Show me that you can demoan a conservative judge as much as the Shiavo Judges..... (and by the way Schiavo was not a Fed. case (nor a Constitutional case) but was IMHO wrongly made to be one...... this is very much a Constitutional case, very much legislating from the bench and yet silence, excuses and not 1 of you are saying the judge is wrong.

Show me that you mean it when you say Judges shouldn't legislate from the bench.... because that is EXACTLY what this judge did.... he allowed unconstitutional wording to be put into his ruling and upheld it as law....

If this had happened to a Christian family regardless of denomination (snake handlers, tongues, the polygymous sect of Mormonism... etc) there would be an outcry heard that would make Schiavo's case small in comparison. It would be on every news channel and the Right would be demanding the Judge's head.

And yet.......... silence and excuses and very very little national media coverage. So in all honesty, was my friend truly wrong? Because right now the party that Bush represents is giving it the silent approval IMHO.

Are you interested in getting opposing viewpoints, or just validation of yours? Is this supposed to be yet another liberal circle jerk thread where you all congratulate each other over how much better you are than those intolerant, hateful, warmongering conservatives? Because that's all I'm getting.

You seem to immediately want to classify his decision in the most negative light possible. The father said he didn't practice in the nude? OK, sure let's just run our legal system on the honor system now and see how well that works. And does that mean those he associate with don't practice in the nude? You seem way to ready to dismiss other reasonable options in favor of one that proves your point-that being that conservatives are all evil hatemongers.

And as for the Bush bashing, you didn't explain why his name had to be brought up. If i'm talking about a particular position of the left that I don't agree with, or a isolated incident, I don't immediately work to tie in Clinton (either one), Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy, Howard Dean, or any of a number of liberal/democrat leaders. But liberals have to tie every thing wrong that happens in the world to Bush. You are starting to become like Confederate southerners-fighting battles that not only were lost long ago, but ones where the poeple have all moved on. You even try the same revisionist history. I can just see years from now parents telling their children about how in 2000 and 2004 the evil red-staters stole the elections from the noble Al Gore and John Kerry, when everyone else will remember these people about as much as Jefferson Davis is remembered today (and in the same light). This hatred of Bush has tainted anything liberals do or say now.
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