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Old 05-30-2005, 05:28 AM   #184 (permalink)
McDuffie
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Originally Posted by adysav
McDuffie:
Inability to believe. This would mean that there is no conceivable situation were I could bring myself to believe. (...)
In short, I do not have an inability to believe, it's just that I dont believe under the current circumstances.
Inability means something different to you than it does to others, I suppose. I am unable to deadlift 550 lbs. I have the inability to lift that much pig iron. I am working on it. Despite the fact that I am unable to lift that much weight, there is a situation that I can conceive of in which I will be able to lift that much weight.

I don't know if I can continue engaging people who have a proclivity for making up new definitions for words as they go.

Quote:
Originally Posted by adysav
Agnosticism has no overlap with theism and "strong" atheism
Exactly. Most people do not understand that. However, you seem to miss the point that the two are not mutually exclusive either. It's like: what if you said there is no overlap between capitalism and philanthropy. I would agree with you. The two have nothing at all in common, yet I can be a capitalist and a philanthropist at the same time. Or I can be one and not the other. You danced around this fact with your own words, but somehow missed that point:

'Weak' atheism is less commonly known as agnostic-atheism.

'Strong' atheism is less commonly known as gnostic-atheism.

I am a weak, or agnostic atheist. Agnosticsm and atheism are the answers to to entirely different questions. Witness:

Q: Are there such things as gods?

A: I don't know


That is agnosticism. Agnosticism only addresses knowledge. It never, ever addresses belief.

Q: Do you believe in gods?

A: No


That is atheism. Atheism only addresses belief. It never, ever addresses knowledge.

I am not an agnostic leaning towards atheism: I am an agnostic-atheist. I am an atheist because I am agnostic. I am a weak atheist, which ironically, is the strongest position for an unbeliever, much like fideism is the stronest position for a believer.
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