05-29-2005, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
As compared to beheading?
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I sometimes yearn to live in a simpler world, where only "terrorists" threaten and then follow through by actually beheading their victims. I don't believe that such a world exists, and so I deliberate too much and search too long, and end up knowing less than I think that I do.
"Only Siths deal in absolutes", Ustwo, but here, there is a "gray" area:
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7761272/
NBC News MEET THE PRESS
Sunday, May 8, 2005
Guests: Gary Schroen, former senior CIA agent, Author of “First In: How seven CIA officers opened the war on terrorism in Afghanistan;”
James Carville, political strategist;
Mary Matalin, political strategist
Moderator: Tim Russert, NBC News
MR. TIM RUSSERT: Our issues this Sunday: This man, the third ranking al-Qaeda leader, Abu Faraj Al-Libbi, is captured. Why is this man, Osama bin Laden, still on the loose?
And will this man, North Korea's Kim Jong Il, sell nuclear weapons to al-Qaeda or use them to blackmail the world?
With us, Gary Schroen, a CIA officer for 32 years and author of "First In: An Insider's Account of How the CIA Spearheaded the War on Terror in Afghanistan."...........
...........MR. RUSSERT: On September 1, 2001, you began a 90-day phaseout retiring from the CIA. Then came the horrific day of 8:46 AM, September 11, 2001. All our lives changed. You were asked to stay on at the CIA. On September 13th, you were summoned to the office of Cofer Black, the head of counterterrorism for the CIA. What did he tell you? What was your mission?
MR. SCHROEN: The mission was to--the first part of it was to go in and link up with the Northern Alliance, formerly headed by Ahmed Al-Massoud, and to win their confidence and their agreement to cooperate militarily with us. They were the only armed force on the ground in Afghanistan opposing the Taliban. The second part of it was, once the Taliban were broken, to attack the al-Qaeda organization, find bin Laden and his senior lieutenants and kill them.
MR. RUSSERT: Kill them?
MR. SCHROEN: Kill them.
MR. RUSSERT: Wasn't it illegal for us to kill foreign leaders?
MR. SCHROEN: I don't think at that point that the--I think the administration had gotten to the point where bin Laden and his guys were fair game.
MR. RUSSERT: As part of war?
MR. SCHROEN: As part of war.
MR. RUSSERT: Mr. Black gave you specific instructions on what he wanted you to bring home.
MR. SCHROEN: That's true. He did ask that once we got bin Laden and killed him, that we send his head back in a cardboard box on dry ice so that he could take it down and show the president.
MR. RUSSERT: Where would you find the dry ice in Afghanistan?
MR. SCHROEN: That's what I mentioned to him. I said, "Cofer, I think that I can come up with pikes to put the heads of the lieutenants on," which is the second part of what he wanted done. "Dry ice, we'll have to improvise.".......
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http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai.../14/wbin14.xml
Bin Laden alive and threatening attack on Britain in terror tape
By Toby Harnden in Washington
(Filed: 14/11/2002)
..............Six days after the September 11 terrorist attacks, Mr Bush declared that bin Laden was wanted "dead or alive". The previous day, his Vice President Dick Cheney had said that he would willingly accept bin Laden's "head on a platter".
Some senior Bush administration officials were dismayed at the comments, believing they personalised the war against terrorism and opened Mr Bush to criticism should bin Laden prove more elusive than hoped..................
http://www.whitehouse.gov/vicepresid...p20010916.html
............MR. RUSSERT: You wouldn't mind having his head on a platter.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: I would take it today. ................
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Last edited by host; 05-29-2005 at 11:10 PM..
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