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Originally Posted by adysav
To Suave:
To RCAlyra2004:
OK, JinnKai beat me to it.
I believe you are agnostic, but just got the definitions mixed up.
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There is no mix up here. What is mixed up is that many people cannot tolerate the shades of Grey that exist in Atheistic thought. It is not as absolute as one would think. Imagine a Circle with Theism and Agnosticism in it and now another circle with Atheism and Agnosticsim in it. Agnosticism is where the two circles overlap.
To have considered that there "may be a god" is a theoretical leap away from natural science. Most Atheists come to their conclusion by examining evidence! If you have a hard time swallowing this you may want to check out the beliefs of the American Humanist Association. They are also linked to the International Humanist Association.
Declaration of Humanist Principles: (check out Number 10 as a good example of what I am getting at.)
(1) Humanism aims at the full development of every human being.
(2) Humanists uphold the broadest application of democratic principles in all human relationships.
(3) Humanists advocate the use of the scientific method, both as a guide to distinguish fact from fiction and to help develop beneficial and creative uses of science and technology.
(4) Humanists affirm the dignity of every person and the right of the individual to maximum possible freedom compatible with the rights of others.
(5) Humanists acknowledge human interdependence, the need for mutual respect and the kinship of all humanity.
(6) Humanists call for the continued improvement of society so that no one may be deprived of the basic necessities of life, and for institutions and conditions to provide every person with opportunities for developing their full potential.
(7) Humanists support the development and extension of fundamental human freedoms, as expressed in the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights and supplemented by UN International Covenants comprising the United Nations Bill of Human Rights.
(8) Humanists advocate peaceful resolution of conflicts between individuals, groups, and nations.
(9) The humanist ethic encourages development of the positive potentialities in human nature, and approves conduct based on a sense of responsibility to oneself and to all other persons.
(10) A fundamental principle of humanism is the rejection of beliefs held in absence of verifiable evidence, such as beliefs based solely on dogma, revelation, mysticism or appeals to the supernatural.
(11) Humanists affirm that individual and social problems can only be resolved by means of human reason, intelligent effort, critical thinking joined with compassion and a spirit of empathy for all living beings.
(12) Humanists affirm that human beings are completely a part of nature, and that our survival is dependent upon a healthy planet which provides us and all other forms of life with a life-supporting environment.
Both of these organizations are Huge and many of the top scientists are in the ranks of their membership.
You say that Atheism takes Faith... the point is that it is faith in a system of science that is proveable and reproducable. A place where the math actually adds up.