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stevo · 05-29-2005, 02:56 PM

I don't understand why norway is used as an example for what America could do better? Who wants to pay $12 for a beer or $16 for a frozen pizza. $6.66 for a gallon of gas! when I read that article I wondered how much norwegians are taxed, and a guess is that it is at least 50% if not higher. The other thing I thought was I'm glad I don't live in norway where I have to pay $12 for a pint or $6.66 for a gallon of gas or $16 for a frozen pizza. In no way is norway a poster child for anything relating to do with the free market.

Capitalisim is the best system we have. It is the most fairest, equitable system on earth. I know some of you may laugh when I say this, but its true. Think about the evolution of capitalisim since the early 1800's. The slave trade was big in america, american companies went overseas, bought peoples land and told them to get off or work for the company. But thats not how it works anymore. Capitalisim has evolved, we have better regulations and human rights laws that keep those kinds of things from happening. Now you can turn on the TV and see blacks, P-diddy, 50-cent, Jesse Jackson, whoever. 150 years ago their ancestors were probably in chains, nothing but property. but through the process of our capitalisit society, through the generations, freedom has spread as well as wealth.

Capitalisim gives everyone the opportunity to make it for themselves. It provides incentives to work hard and think smart in order to make money so you can look out for you and your own. because thats inherent in human nature - the desire to take care of one's self and one's family. As we progress into this next century capitalisim will continue to evolve and what injustices may be present today (even though they pale in comparisson to those of centuries past) will be corrected through the spread of capitalism, freedom, and free economies across the world. As capitalisim as a whole progresses, states that begin to adopt capitalist economies will also evolve. It just takes time, generations and generations.

Its nice to think of a "fair" and "equal" society based on socialist ideals, but sadly those ideals go against human nature. Socialisim would only work if there is a paradigm shift in human nature, and ending capitalisim isn't going to cause that shift. Its not going to happen overnight. I think as capitalism progresses and evolves over the next few centuries lives and the standards of those lives will get better for people as a whole and that give mankind its greatest opportunity for a "fair" and "equal" society for all.

05-29-2005, 02:56 PM	#31 (permalink)
stevo Rail Baron Location: Tallyfla	I don't understand why norway is used as an example for what America could do better? Who wants to pay $12 for a beer or $16 for a frozen pizza. $6.66 for a gallon of gas! when I read that article I wondered how much norwegians are taxed, and a guess is that it is at least 50% if not higher. The other thing I thought was I'm glad I don't live in norway where I have to pay $12 for a pint or $6.66 for a gallon of gas or $16 for a frozen pizza. In no way is norway a poster child for anything relating to do with the free market. Capitalisim is the best system we have. It is the most fairest, equitable system on earth. I know some of you may laugh when I say this, but its true. Think about the evolution of capitalisim since the early 1800's. The slave trade was big in america, american companies went overseas, bought peoples land and told them to get off or work for the company. But thats not how it works anymore. Capitalisim has evolved, we have better regulations and human rights laws that keep those kinds of things from happening. Now you can turn on the TV and see blacks, P-diddy, 50-cent, Jesse Jackson, whoever. 150 years ago their ancestors were probably in chains, nothing but property. but through the process of our capitalisit society, through the generations, freedom has spread as well as wealth. Capitalisim gives everyone the opportunity to make it for themselves. It provides incentives to work hard and think smart in order to make money so you can look out for you and your own. because thats inherent in human nature - the desire to take care of one's self and one's family. As we progress into this next century capitalisim will continue to evolve and what injustices may be present today (even though they pale in comparisson to those of centuries past) will be corrected through the spread of capitalism, freedom, and free economies across the world. As capitalisim as a whole progresses, states that begin to adopt capitalist economies will also evolve. It just takes time, generations and generations. Its nice to think of a "fair" and "equal" society based on socialist ideals, but sadly those ideals go against human nature. Socialisim would only work if there is a paradigm shift in human nature, and ending capitalisim isn't going to cause that shift. Its not going to happen overnight. I think as capitalism progresses and evolves over the next few centuries lives and the standards of those lives will get better for people as a whole and that give mankind its greatest opportunity for a "fair" and "equal" society for all. __________________ "If I am such a genius why am I drunk, lost in the desert, with a bullet in my ass?" -Otto Mannkusser