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Originally Posted by host
When I have raised these issues, the response from Bush regime supporters is:
1.) We can do anything we want, the U.S. makes the rules. No international court is recognized to have jurisdiction over illegal acts of American officials.
2.) Charges of war crimes are only prosecuted on the losers by the winners.The only determination of commission of war crimes is made by the winning side. The only difference between war criminals and righteous warriors is losers vs. winners.
3.) The offenses that were categorized by U.S. prosecutors at Nuremberg as war crimes have been revised or re-categorized over time, and are not relevant or comparable to today's events.
4.) you are always bashing Bush, get a life, the article that you posted is too long, why don't you post your own opinion; anyone can do google searches and cut and paste.....the sources you use are from sites that are leftie/not credible, the author of the article you quote is a leftie, so his opinions aren't valid. Amnesty International is out to get the U.S. administration, look at all the good that the U.S. has doone in the world, and you have to expect that freeing the Iraqi people from a brutal dictator who gassed his own people will take time and be messy, but the Iraqis are of course, better off.....
Have I missed any?
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Nah - I think you hit them all! I must have missed the thread that dealt with #3 in your list, however.
Also, I should point out that - for myself, at least - the sources you use are not "invalid"...they merely originate from sources that I question. That means that I have to seek out additional sources of information on the same issue, read them, and try to arrive at my own conclusions. I don't damn anyone for taking a source from Fox News to task - I don't even watch Fox News because I think they are too far in the conservative camp! Just don't damn us when we take your sources to task.
As for your posts being "too long", information overload is a very real part of our lives. That some people find the articles you post too long for what they wish to devote to it - its a valid argument from their point of view.
However, the real purpose of this post was to demonstrate how guilty the administration is regrading war crimes. Hasn't this point been drivin into the dirt yet? There are options: special committees, independent investigators, lawsuits...hell, didn't the article state that a lawsuit that Amnesty or the other group started in Germany got thrown out?
Bottom line - people who think that the administration needs to be investigated for crimes know what channels are necessary to make it happen. If they can, they will pursue the issue through those channels. I support them doing that.
While I understand that posting articles supporting that goal here in this forum serves the purpose of keeping the issues in everyones thoughts, we must realize that no one here probably has the wherewithal to make such a set of trials and investigations happen.
I would hope, however, that you are sending a steady stream of letters and backup material to your Senators and Representatives? THAT'S where I would expect things to happen/change - either with them or the people that you elect to replace them (if you can manage to make that happen).