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Old 05-29-2005, 03:47 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by TopRamen66
This is just not true. 1.2-1.8 Grams per Kilogram of body weight is more than adequate for sufficient muscle regeneration. The average american diet gets in 4x the amount of protein than is required, and bodybuilders who buy into the hype get far, far more than is required. Given proper diet, there is ZERO need for any suppliments, at all. None. Protein powders are generally much harder to absorb and contain incomplete proteins, and if you count on just incomplete proteins there is no point in taking it at all, your body will not metabolise it. If you notice, in bodybuilding and fitness magazines they recomend vast amounts of protein in suppliment form...but what kind of advertisements are on every other page? Protein suppliment companies. They cater to their advertisers, not their audience. The rest of your advice is sound though
That calculation would put his daily intake of protein at around 80-100 grams. ANY bodybuilder or serious weightlifter will tell you this isn't anywhere near enough for optimal growth. As someone of similar height who's moving out of the 180's, i need at least 200g a day (yes, i know, everyones different, but it's an easy example) or i go nowhere slowly.
Yes bodybuilding magazine do overhype protein intakes to cater to their advertisers, but the base message is still true. You don't go anywhere without protein.
1-2g per lb of bodyweight.

When you say regeneration, do you mean healing, or growth?

Protein powders...depends on the brand. Some as you say, suck ass. They're not worth the milk they're made from. Others are very very good. A good whey protein (as i've probably said before, i like Optimum Nutritions one) has a very high biological availability profile for it's protein, so most is absorbed and used by the body.
Most people will agree that you shouldn't get most of your protein in shake form as it's not anywhere near as good as solid food. Where you should be using a shake though is after a workout when the body is most receptive to nutrients your shoveling into it.
A scoop or two of whey powder will give you 30-50g of protein right there. Your body loves that. You then can have a nice meal a little bit after that to get all the micro and macro nutrients you really need.
Most people can't get a proper diet, i sure as hell can't. Thats where a good quality protein powder can step in and take up a little slack to help you out.


Um, about Soy products since they're being talked about. If your a man, be wary about how much soy produce you eat. They're been proven to contain compounds similar to estrogen (the main female hormone) which eaten in sufficient quanities won't do you any help whatsoever.
I'm not saying don't eat them, they're a great source of protein, just don't eat them too much.
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