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Old 05-27-2005, 08:21 PM   #64 (permalink)
dlish
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oh i would have to agree Mrselfdestruct...

"I would refuse to have any sort of diplomatic relations or trade with any country that so blatantly violated human rights"

now lets see...human rights huh.. lets see..China (blatent crackdown on minority groups in the name of anti-terror)..strike...Russia..(ditto)..strike..most of sth west asia and central asia..(ditto) ..strike..africa..(dictators, civil unrest, poor human rights records)..strike...mid east (ditto as africa)..strike..USA... (rendition of prisoners to other counrties, blatant breaking of geneva conventions, guantanamo..lets not go there.. crackdown on minority groups...weapons of mass destruction hoax etc etc etc)

there we go... we just struck off most of the known world for human rights abuses. not many countries left to deal with really.. maybe we should all move to switzelrand or sweden or something.

the fact that a sovereign country with its own laws (based on european systems of law mind you..im sure it was the dutch system) convicts a drug smuggler to 20 years is not any countries business. the indonesians didnt kidnap her and smuggle her into the country..she arrived on a plane and was convicted of carrying drugs. whether or not the trail was fair is another story. but we cannot interfere in another sovereign countries affairs.. thats what dictators and terrorists do...unless ure name of course is mr Bush. then in that case you can kidnap prisoners from zambia, bosnia, and across the mid east and throw them on an island called cuba..render them to other counrties to do your dirty work and then bring them back. lets call a spade a spade.

yeah she did get rough justice i think... but we cant just willy nilly send in covert commandos to break out a convicted drug smuggler. especially ocnsidering that indonesia IS australias closest neighbour. whatever happened to diplomacy?!?!

anotehr issue i have is this... had this been someone from a third world country, it would never have made the front pages..but a young pretty aussie girl..and its a debacle.

had someone been convicted in austalia of smuggling drugs, we all would have asked for the maximum penalty...lets not talk about the inhumanity of indonesians.. we all are capable of doing much worse. doesnt matter which part of the world you come from.
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