Ustwo

My parents did a pretty good job raising their kids, but, while they were not the overly permissive types of the 60's like so many of their peers, they did give us to much freedom of action. We were respectful etc (they were good there) but unmotivated.

Finally my dad kicked me in my ass when I was 22 and I turned out ok. If it weren't for that very long night I don't know where I'd be today but it would be in a lot worse shape. Luckly the framework was there so to speak, it just required a bigger push. On the other hand I wonder what I could have accomplished had this happened when I was younger.

Being friends with your kids is great, but you have to guide them, by example and by rule. I've seen to many spoiled children who are friends with their parents but end up as lifes losers. You can be a friend and a parent at the same time, but when they push, you need to be a parent first.

Edit: and Eula, good luck, what you think of parenting horrifies me, but thats just my opinion.

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