Sun Tzu, I had found your previous postings to be civil, open-minded, and scholarly, but these last two I have found very disappointing. It doesn't seem like you read all of my previous posts in this thread, which were factal and historical in nature. You have not provided any evidence, short of links to Gush Shalom, Peace Now- which is funded in Israel by the European Union, and has a political agenda. You accuse me of selective attention, but I have dug quite deeply before into the accusation against Israel, I have read both sides.
It is you who seems to be unwilling to consider alternatives in this situation. There are many sides to an argument, but only one truth. You haven't provided any evidence, as I requested, to back up the staggering caims you have presented against the state of Israel and the IDF. I am also sickened by your apologies for the most barbaric attacks on civilians that the world has ever known (that is, until 9/11). Do you sit and ponder what the Hijackers motivation was on 9/11? Is there any motivation that could possibly excuse such barbarity? How is it any different in Israel? The people who do these things have the same ideology. You have resorted to labelling me, and have long since stopped considering my words from an intellectually open and honest perspective.
I am sorry to have to end the discussion this way, because I had thought that previously it had been very fruitful, and mutually educational. But you have resorted to spewing Palestinian propaganda, and have not backed it up whatsoever. You give graphic descriptions of dead Palestinian children, but you have not in any way established the reason this happens- that children are encouraged to go out on the front lines, and become "Shahids".
By your logic, the more brutal and sickening the terrorist attacks on innocent Israeli civilians are, the more guilty Israel is? At the Ma'alot school, when PLO terrorists took hostage, and killed 23 Israeli schoolchildren- the Israelis must have just recently done something really terrible to deserve that, right?
I don't have the patience to go through your claims scholastically, again, since I have already presented valid points that you have ignored. I will post a link here though- it is from the zionist organization of America- but that is not important. The video itself, and it's narrative bent are not even important. The footage I want you to see is that of an arab mob in Ramallah. Forget anything else about the video- shot by italian journalists, who later received death-threats. It was never publicized or broadcast anywhere in the Western media. Please watch it, and simply tell me what you see.
http://www.zoa.org/videos/IsraelInDanger1.ram (low speed)
http://www.zoa.org/videos/IsraelInDanger2.ram (high speed)