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Old 05-21-2005, 11:18 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
In war the ends always justify the means. To think or act otherwise is inviting disaster. I do not think the American people were majorly manipulated by lies and whatnot. You will note who won the election in 2004. All of these 'facts' have been out there and quite frankly most of us dont' care or don't believe them..........
I do not expect to change anyone's mind. If my efforts can strengthen the resolve of those who demand sincerity, disclosure, and accountability of our elected officials, as a minimum standard for those deserving of our vote and of our post election support, my participation here will be worth my while. Ustwo, I would not be impressed if Bush had received ninety percent of last November's vote. The damage he has done to the credibility of our government and to his administration is what it is, in the oipinion of some Americans, and in the opinion of many in other nations. Does the plurality of this poll result affect your opinion?:
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http://www.zogby.com/search/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855
Released: August 30, 2004

Half of New Yorkers Believe US Leaders Had Foreknowledge of Impending 9-11 Attacks and “Consciously Failed” To Act; 66% Call For New Probe of Unanswered Questions by Congress or New York’s Attorney General, New Zogby International Poll Reveals
A presentation that responds to "In war the ends always justify the means.":
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http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/ra...howtopic=50921
These are powerful lies.

Some of our fellow citizens seem to think it is okay to mislead people if the ends justify the means. The morality of this war can be debated. But here is the best article related to the morality (or lack thereof) of this war. http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040531&s=savoy

This analysis should be shared. So if you too are outraged by this information or this analysis, please forward it to everyone you know. It needs to be debated wether you agree or not.

One last question, what would have happened to you if you lied and it cost 10 lives and $1billion? Would you have been fired or jailed? Maybe both?

Sincerely,
An Honest American

Reference Web Sites and Footnote
1. http://democrats.reform.house.gov/Ir...record_rep.pdf, http://democrats.reform.house.gov/IraqOnTheRecord/
2. http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...351165,00.html
3. http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/m...8/ritter.iraq/
4. http://www.counterpunch.org/mcgovern06232003.html
5. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in577975.shtml
6.http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...&notFound=true
7. http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...895882,00.html
8. http://icasualties.org/oif/
9. http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
10. http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar/index.html

This post has been edited by lh beetle: May 17 2005, 11:22 PM
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