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Old 05-21-2005, 12:35 PM   #61 (permalink)
boatin
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Originally Posted by Seaver
Maybe instead of constantly posting inflammitory posts about those of us who support the war (still), trying to truely understand why we do.

I personally dont care how they justified the war. It's justified in my opinion simply because the good will outnumber the bad. You screaming at us about how there were lies, how he was oil hungry, how whatever else doesnt sway me. Not because I dont believe it, but because I dont care. The Iraqi people will be much better off at the end of this, and I believe they will look on us as we look on FDR doing shady things to attempt to provolk us into war with Germany. Most wont have a problem with it because hindsight grants clarity of vision. I'll let history judge my stance on it, not you.

This is the issue that has me conflicted about the whole thing. I'm glad he's gone. Given the binary choice between Saddam/No Saddam, I suspect 100% of people on this forum would choose the second option.

There is significant good that comes of him being gone.


But it wasn't a binary choice. And what I see you writing, Seaver, is that ends justify the means. I'm no philosopher, but I don't buy that. I think good things can happen from bad means, but more often it goes the other way.

Two things here:
  • [1]Time will tell the true cost
    [2]What happens next time?

It's way to early to determine if the outcomes will be good. Because of the choices made, there were costs to:
  • Relations with the world
  • Increase in terrorism
  • Damage and trust between Administration and (some) public
  • Cost of American life
  • others?

Will the cost of those someday overwrite the benefit of Saddam being gone? Or does ANY amount of things on that list not outweigh Saddam being gone? I would find that hard to believe is your stance.

It's the second item that has my panties in a twist, however. It may have worked the first time (may being the operative word), but can you trust him next time?

Manipulating the American people to this degree can't be good. Doesn't that have a price? Or does it just not matter because Saddam is gone? That, too, is hard for me to believe.
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