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Old 05-16-2005, 04:46 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by willravel
It's arguable that anyone who kills is insanse, but I gave the system the benifit of the doubt as it is their call whether someone is legally sane or insane. Clearly the benifit of this coubt came back and bit me in the ass. What sane person would kill someone else? I can't think of a time where a sane person would kill someone else (besides self defence or accedent; neither of which are really a murder 1 charge).
I am not saying that someone who kills is insane, obviously there are some instances where a sane person would consider the risks or penalties for murder worth it. My point is that if they did not know it was wrong/against the law we would at least give them a lesser charge. Someone who is otherwise mentally stable but had no concept of right or wrong might be considered a sociopath, a form of mental sickness. The distinction is not that people who kill are insane, but that not knowing that killing was against the law/wrong would indicate insanity.

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There is a difference between 'exhausting every reasonable doubt of innocence' and knowing someone is innocent for sure. Why kill if you aren't 100% sure? It's the finality of death that puts the death penalty in a much different catagory that any other punishment. History shows that second guessing at any point is not insane. It is just. People are exonerated from death row; some after execution. And I always check my mirrors and look about because there are a lot of kids in my neightborhood.
I wonder how much you can really "take back" any form of punishment. Obviously a fine is easy to refund but what about imprisonment? I don't know of any way to give people back their time.

Another thing to consider is if the worst you can do to someone is life imprisonment it puts anyone who has been convicted of such a crime into a very dangerous position. Once a person had committed such a crime once they would have absolutely no reason not to kill again; what more are you going to do to them?
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