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Originally Posted by Phage
People who do not know killing is wrong are not convicted, that is valid grounds for an insanity plea. You are naively ignoring the fact that almost all sane murderers know that killing is wrong, and do it anyway. We don't have to "teach them that murder is wrong", they already know it and murdered anyway.
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It's arguable that anyone who kills is insanse, but I gave the system the benifit of the doubt as it is their call whether someone is legally sane or insane. Clearly the benifit of this coubt came back and bit me in the ass. What sane person would kill someone else? I can't think of a time where a sane person would kill someone else (besides self defence or accedent; neither of which are really a murder 1 charge).
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The reason there is a death row is so that people have a chance to be exonerated; the time spent waiting for all of the appeals to go through is very long. In the end we have exhausted every reasonable doubt of innocence. Rational people can then apply the appropriate punishment; second guessing at that point boarders on insanity. When you back your car out of the driveway do you check your mirrors? There is always the possibility that there might be a small child behind your tires, having arrived there through methods unknown.
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There is a difference between 'exhausting every reasonable doubt of innocence' and knowing someone is innocent for sure. Why kill if you aren't 100% sure? It's the finality of death that puts the death penalty in a much different catagory that any other punishment. History shows that second guessing at any point is not insane. It is just. People are exonerated from death row;
some after execution. And I always check my mirrors and look about because there are a lot of kids in my neightborhood.
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In then end I bet you back up anyway, trusting that your reasonably sufficient observations have found the truth. Well, in America by law you need 12 different people to agree on the truth plus any other combinations of people through all the appeals for someone to be executed. Unless you have more than 12 people agreeing that your tires are clear of children...
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That's a case of gross negligence (murder 2 or manslaughter), not premedetated murder (apples and oranges).
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I leave you to flounder in the hypocrisy of your stance.
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You showed no hypocracy in my stance. Perhapse you can be more specific. Oh, and I rarely flounder.