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Zenir · 05-12-2005, 02:26 PM

It seems as though Bingle has a pretty good grasp on what the main problem is. The problem is the question and evidence given. The question is posed objectively. Yes, there is generally a normal distribution of people in the poll for opinions and actions. Therefore there will always be extremists and so forth. However, this does not imply that all atheists are zealots, on the contrary it argues against it. This goes both ways though. Those that are zealots are often in the lime-light so it is their opinion which is yelled the loudest over the crowd of individuals.
For evidence, we can not prove that god exists or does not exist at the moment. So, logically we can not say there is definitely no god, also we can not say there is definitely a god. This is why there is faith. The things we can assume from this is that for the moment there is no significant support beyond imposed thoughts and ideas for or against god, and therefore god or not god is somewhat irrelevant for the moment. If he has a hand in things, we won't notice, if he doesn't we obviously wouldn't notice. You could assume that you always have a goblin following you and he hides behind you head without effecting you and is quite indetectable to others. It would be insignificant for everything and everyone but those effected by your actions and your own perception.
As a side note I don't know if anyone has noticed anyone neglecting to say the pledge. I personally don't, I feel it is outdated and has lost meaning. I also don't agree with it. Many people however did not seem to take a fondness toward this. This is in relation with school prayer. How is it possible to allow for mass prayer of every religion, specifically when some don't involve "prayers" this si why there are public and private schools. Private schools allow for individuals to find a place which matches their preferences.

05-12-2005, 02:26 PM	#146 (permalink)
Zenir Tilted Location: Fairbanks, Alaska	It seems as though Bingle has a pretty good grasp on what the main problem is. The problem is the question and evidence given. The question is posed objectively. Yes, there is generally a normal distribution of people in the poll for opinions and actions. Therefore there will always be extremists and so forth. However, this does not imply that all atheists are zealots, on the contrary it argues against it. This goes both ways though. Those that are zealots are often in the lime-light so it is their opinion which is yelled the loudest over the crowd of individuals. For evidence, we can not prove that god exists or does not exist at the moment. So, logically we can not say there is definitely no god, also we can not say there is definitely a god. This is why there is faith. The things we can assume from this is that for the moment there is no significant support beyond imposed thoughts and ideas for or against god, and therefore god or not god is somewhat irrelevant for the moment. If he has a hand in things, we won't notice, if he doesn't we obviously wouldn't notice. You could assume that you always have a goblin following you and he hides behind you head without effecting you and is quite indetectable to others. It would be insignificant for everything and everyone but those effected by your actions and your own perception. As a side note I don't know if anyone has noticed anyone neglecting to say the pledge. I personally don't, I feel it is outdated and has lost meaning. I also don't agree with it. Many people however did not seem to take a fondness toward this. This is in relation with school prayer. How is it possible to allow for mass prayer of every religion, specifically when some don't involve "prayers" this si why there are public and private schools. Private schools allow for individuals to find a place which matches their preferences. __________________ Success is not the key to happiness. Happiness is the key to success.-Albert Schweitzer, philosopher, physician, musician, Nobel laureate (1875-1965) Last edited by Zenir; 05-12-2005 at 02:29 PM..