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Old 05-11-2005, 01:53 PM   #22 (permalink)
hrdwareguy
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Originally Posted by Gilda
I can see a couple of solutions. Assuming that the bullets are sold in sets of 50, manufacture them in sets of 51. If one out of a set needs to be discarded for quality control purposes, you still have a full set of 50. This gives you an extra 20 for test firing out of every 1000, and only increases the manufacturing cost by 2%.

Solution 2: Sell boxes of 49 or 48 bullets, clearly marked as 49 or 48.

In either case, no remarking of bullets would be necessary.
OK, so if manufacturing cost goes up by 2%, we shall assume that cost gets passed on to the consumer. No the box of bullets I paid 10.00 is now 10.20 (assuming a streight through increase). The state is going to get an extra 0.25 on that box to help pay for the tracking. Making the cost now 10.45. After tax (pre and post proposed legislation) the cost per box now costs me an extra 0.50. That's not terrible however the manufacturers aren't going to have time to test fire an extra 19 bullets. (I don't know the exact number they manufacture in a day, but the reports say 8 million bullets produced daily). Since they won't be test firing these extra rounds, they must now be discarded or somehow remanufactured. Discarding them would result in excess waste, not a good solution. They can't be reused because of the serial numbers. What now?

Also selling boxes of less than 50 would actually drive prices up. These boxes would need special labels and would also have to have special handling. When being sold to distributors and then to the retail chains, these special boxes would have to have special pricing for each box. This will add extra overhead in ordering and billing.

Mildly off topic here and you don't have to answer if you don't want to, but I have a couple of questions for you:
Since you live in CA, how do you think passage of this would affect you personally?

What are you current views/beliefs about firearms and current firearm legislation?



Just out of curiosity sake, I sent Federal Cartridge and Remington emails about this. I have not yet heard back from Federal but here is the email and response from Remington:

My email:
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I have been reading recently about a proposed law in California that would require ammunition manufacturers to laser engrave a serial number on the bottom of each bullet and inside each case for every box of ammunition manufactured.

Can you tell me the current steps components go through in the manufacturing process? Which of these steps are automated and which are done by humans? If the law in California passes, what will this mean to the current way Remmington manufacturers ammunition?

Thank you.
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The law is being proposed by people who either don’t understand high volume manufacturing processes and/or are following a strictly anti-gun agenda. It would essentially ban ammunition in California, but would have no real affect on crime except to disarm the law abiding citizens.

We do not release information regarding our manufacturing process.
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