Yakk

While QM immortality says that could and will happen to one future Lebell, most of the future Lebells will have a far more prosaic existance.

There will be a future in which you die. There will be a future in which you are alive in 1 million years. Most of the futures in which you are alive in 1 million years will be because of relatively normal reasons that make sense at the time, not mystical mumbo-jumbo chance.

Yes, that will happen. But it will happen with low probability.

Let "F" be friends and family live forever.
Let "K" be you live forever.

P(K|K) = 1
P(F|K) =~ 0

There are other hints besides the 4 properties you listed.

While I've seen papers that seek to explains these things without use of many-worlds.

First of all, mathematically, to describe the probability that an electron will go from point A to point B, you integrate it's probabilities over all paths. In general, this is how you work things out in Q-M -- you pretend everything happens. This, for some odd reason, tells you what you will observe.

Secondly, there is no experiment you can do that can prove your own mortality to yourself. There is an experiment you can do to prove your own immortality.

Btw, hidden variables are insufficient to explain observations, and neither is indeterminism.

As far as I'm aware, you need a magic "quantum wave collapse" and "faster than light communication of zero-information quantum wave collapse syncronization" in order to avoid having to use many-universes.

Or, we can assume a naive interpritation of what the math says we are doing is actually happening, and examine the consequences.

Quantum Computing
Where is the Q-M quantum computation happening? We are building a 'many-universe' computer, transmitting information between the universes, then arranging it so the universe in which the correct answer is worked out has a probability near 1.

The Double-Slit Experiment

How is that electron interfearing with itself? The electron-instances that go along each path push and pull against each other.

Schrodinger's Cat
Until we open the box, both the living and dead cat universes are not perpendicular. Opening the box makes us see only one of the two universes, the other one no longer visible, because it was rotated nearly 90 degrees away from us.

Schrodinger's Kittens
You make two Schodinger's cats in an entangled state: if one is dead, the other is alive.

You carry them, box closed, 1,000 light years apart.

Open one box. If it is alive, when you see the light from the other cat's box being opened, the other cat will be dead. And vice versa.

Many universes interpriation: opening the box causes you to be unable to see the universe in which the other cat is inconsistent with your local perceptions.

Many-universes makes Q-M things make intuative sense on macroscopic levels. It makes sense on mathematical levels. It is consistent with all observations.

I find locality violation philosophically abhorant than just making the universe a bit more broad. M-U is an interpritation that is consistent with observations, simple in explaination, explains the things that are difficult to explain, and beautiful in body -- that is why I think it may just be true.

Hmm -- so, you think the 'stuff' gets too thin on the ground.

This is because you see the universe as dividing up into threads. It is far more continuous than that.

Imagine things casting shadows, but the shadow being the thing -- lights moving in many colours, on an infinite dimensional tapestry. Sheets of reality twisting and turning so they are at nearly (but not quite) right angles to one another, with their shadows on each other becoming indistinguishable from random noise.

It is a bigger reality, both more complex and more elegant than the clumsy "magical wave collapse" and "secret particle information subway" realities.

Who are you? Those that are elsewhere are images of you, things that what you used to be did become.

This is where I find some interesting implications.

You will be sick in bed. And you'll recover, no matter how ill you will get. Those around you will see you die, yes, but you will see yourself recover.

It becomes your duty to reconcile them with your death, with no longer being able to see you, while you yourself are facing no such risk of loss.

Desease and Death are sad, because they hurt others with your absence.

The alternative explainations are worse than the wierdness you get from the many-universe theory.

You think that the math is just an illusion. But, for whatever reason, math has proven to be the best modeler of the universe we have yet found. I'm taking the math at face value, and it says this universe is but a slice of reality.

__________________
Last edited by JHVH : 10-29-4004 BC at 09:00 PM. Reason: Time for a rest.