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Old 05-10-2005, 04:58 AM   #20 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by shakran
Pan, you gotta calm down. All this "fuck you, fuck Bush, fuck that shit" stuff isn't helping the cause. You're completely right in that the GOP is filled with a bunch of smarmy, help-only-the-rich jerks, but the way you're approaching it guarantees that no one will listen to you about it. Hell it's hard enough to get them to listen to reason when you're being reasonable. If you sound like the alcoholic nut in the middle of central park, you'll never get anyone to pay attention.
I agree and I have no excuse for the behavior or tone I used. I just honestly have a hard time dealing with this. I can deal with a lot, but basically giving tax dollars away to people who are illegally here while the same government allows the healthcare industry to rape and pillage the people paying the taxes and are true citizens? Where is the justification? What the Hell happened to the reasoning?

To have people on this board accept it and believe that giving people who are committing crimes (illegal immigration IS ILLEGAL) free healthcare is ok, but tell people who were promised benefits and law abiding citizens have to go broke, tough luck........ is just freaking unbelievable.

Have we totally lost our freaking minds to allow this to continue and have people support it?

WTF? Are we going to give ILLEGALS their own free housing and hand them whatever they need, while we taxpayers have our government rape our educational system, our future and sit still for it, while blaming "the other party".

We cut Medicare and Medicaid (a PAID INSURANCE), close VA hospitals and refuse to even open dialogue on trying to restore sanity into the system...... BUT we can pay BILLIONS (and it will be BILLIONS) to give ILLEGALS FREE HEALTHCARE, when the party in power refuses to give its own a decent medical system.

What is the slogan going to be now............. COME TO THE US ILLEGALLY AND GET UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE AS THEIR OWN GO INTO DEBT TRYING TO PAY FOR IT?????????

The very people who argue against a healthcare reform.... even on a sliding scale basis are OK with paying for ILLEGAL healthcare?????? WTF?

This is just mind boggling I can not believe this is the same country I grew up in and put on a military uniform for.
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