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Originally Posted by host
Reminds of the lyrics from the timbuk3 mid 80's song, "doin' all right, gettin' good grades, the future's so bright.....I gotta wear shades....."
Here's a reality check:
Seaver and Mojo_ , my sincere thanks to both of you for the civility displayed by both of you in your posts. I've lived through the experience before of secretive, U.S. administrations misleading the American people while waging an unjust and unnecessary war. I perceive it to be happening again, not unlike the plot in Bill Murrays' "Groundhog Day". My past experience and my current opinion cause me to be irritated and sadly discouraged. This did not have to happen. I want these militaristic policies to stop. Please consider how little that these policies have and will potentially accomplish, vs. the damage to our stated foreign policy goals, and to human life, that they result in.
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Host, the thing is when it comes to politics, idealism is all fine and good, but alot of the time it really has no place, moreso in the realm of Foreign politics. You lived through Vietnam, which was admittedly a fucked up useless war, Iraq in my mind is way different. The insurgency is waivering right now, as it stands the population of Iraq may largely not be pleased with our presence there, but it is only a small minority that is "hostile" to our presence. It seems most Iraqi's have the presence of mind to do things the right way to get us out of there as fast as possible.
But paying homage to reality, this war greatly helps our foreign policy goals, more so in the long term, which is a key aspect. The reality is this war did have to happen in the current scheme of global politics, I admit that this is a war of Imperialism, but I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing. Our presence in Iraq now will dramatically effect and dictate the world political scheme for years to come.
On top of that, my primary position has always been, and always will be, that Saddam and his regime were the biggest collective group of sociopathic douchelanders of the modern world. Iraq is a better place with him gone, especially the people. Same goes for the Mideast and the world at large. This guy should've been taken out in 91'. Shame on the whole world for letting him stay in power and for placing those sanctions on the Iraqi people.