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Old 05-07-2005, 08:29 AM   #47 (permalink)
uncle_el
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lindseylatch
But...does abortion count as "delivery?" I suppose it would depend on what type of abortion, how early in the pregnancy. Obviously a partial-birth abortion would count, I would think.
And just cause it's illegal and immoral does not mean it's impossible. As I'm sure we've all seen [censored political comment]...

Beside, I believe it was a joke...
if it is/was a joke, i apologize (though i guess educating people isn't a bad thing, lol).

abortion does not count as a delivery, but a physician would not be able to perform an abortion, and then immediately perform a tubal ligation for a host of reasons:
1. anatomy- abortions are done vaginally, whereas tubal ligations are done laparoscopically or open... you cannot simply reach through a woman's vagina, up through the cervix, over to the tube from the inside out and do what needs to be done.
2. logistically different instruments are needed
3. logistically different rooms are used (abortions are done in procedure rooms, tubal ligations are done in the operating room)
4. logistically, when a surgery or procedure is scheduled, a particular set of isntruments/devices/equipment is prepped and sterilized, and brought to the room
5. the illegal and unethical reasons i previously stated
6. not to mention the immorality of it (after all, who is a physician to decide that a woman no longer needs to bear children)

it's happened in other cases before, a physician decides on his/her own that the woman no longer needs to have children, and performs a tubal ligation. said physician ends up facing a big time lawsuit because there is no professional standard to justify what was done, and the blatant paternal nature of such a decision.




also, though tubal ligations can be reversed, it doesn't mean that the tubes will be patent/open. the old way of "tying tubes" was to use suture on two different ends, and then cut out a piece in the middle. a newer way is to use surgical clips (old ones made of plastic, newer ones made of titanium) to clip either end. these clips can technically be removed in the future, but you have no idea how much scar tissue would have formed underneath the area of the clip. so, for all intents and puposes, tubal ligation is permanent sterilization.
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