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Originally Posted by sixate
Dumbest thing ever. That's like saying everyone that voted for Nash would say they would choose Nash over Shaq if they had one of those 2 to build a team around, and we all know nobody would do that. The Suns run and gun no D style will never win a championship.
Did everyone forget that the Mavs are a better team WITHOUT Nash!! The Mavs won 6 more games without him.
The Lakers are certainly not better without Shaq. They'll suck for years now because they let him go. Nash will never affect any team that he ever plays for like that. The people that voted are just morons who look at Shaq and say he's the best, and we all know it so lets give it to the little guy. So very fucking stupid. There's at least 12 players in the league that are better/more valuable than Nash....
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Actually, the only thing you learn from the fact that the Lakers suck without Shaq, is that Shaq WAS the Lakers' MVP all those years (although we already knew that). The performance of Shaq's and Nash's previous teams has no bearing on their value to their current team. The loss of a big-man has a greater impact on a team than the lost of a point-gaurd which is why the Mavericks and the Lakers turned out the way they did. It reminds me of when San Antonio lost David Robinson to injury for the year, and the Spurs ended up with the worst record in the league. Back on topic, Phoenix, with Nash, had a
33 game turn-around this season, going from the bottom of the Western Conference to the #1 overall team in the league. The heat, with Shaq, had a 17 game turn-around, but they were already a solid playoff team. Shaq's value to the Heat will be in the playoffs, as they try to get to the Finals.
Shaq is undoubtably the most dominant player in the league, and that alone makes him a top-3 MVP candidate each and every year. As far as defense is concerned, when your team scores over 110 points a game, I think Nash should be cut some slack. Also, its not as if Phoenix is allowing 109 per game, their point differential is greater than seven, and at least to me, it tells me that you're doing more than enough to be considered a defensive liability. If Phoenix only scored 100 points a game, and allowed only 93, it probably wouldn't even enter into the discussion.