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Old 05-06-2005, 04:45 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by sixate
The Suns run and gun no D style will never win a championship.
Last time I checked, regular season MVP votes aren't based on the ability of one player to carry his team to the championship. Also, weren't the Lakers a run and gun team during the 80's?

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The Lakers are certainly not better without Shaq. They'll suck for years now because they let him go. Nash will never affect any team that he ever plays for like that.
We're talking about one season -- not the last decade. If there was such an award, Shaq should be the MVP of the decade.

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Did everyone forget that the Mavs are a better team WITHOUT Nash!! The Mavs won 6 more games without him.
Did you forget that the Suns are a better team WITH Nash!! The Suns won 33 more games with him.

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Originally Posted by sixate
The people that voted are just morons who look at Shaq and say he's the best, and we all know it so lets give it to the little guy. So very fucking stupid. There's at least 12 players in the league that are better/more valuable than Nash....
I agree. There definitely are 12 players, who are better than Nash, in the league today. However, we're talking about how valuable Nash is to the Suns. A brief run of the Suns' team stats with and without Nash dictate how valuable he is to them:

The Suns without Nash in the line-up:

W-L: 2-5

PPG: 103.4

PPGA: 109.4

Assists: 120 (17.13 per game)

The Suns with Nash in the line-up:

W-L: 60-15

PPG: 117.1

PPGA: 105.1

Assists: 1927 (24.09 per game)
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