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Old 05-04-2005, 03:21 PM   #49 (permalink)
Supple Cow
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Originally Posted by abaya
Supple Cow: do you believe in liberalizing the flow of labor across borders, too? (Meaning basically, open borders, no regulation on that, just as there is no regulation on "free trade")... I think it would be interesting, and very equalizing (though that means the rich would get poorer, ooohhh too bad).
Yes. I do. I also understand that security concerns make stricter immigration policies popular and necessary to a degree; but in general, the more liberalization we can withstand without giving up too much control over security, the better off everybody is. The rich (rather, the rich now) would lose money in such a process, but it would only be in the short run if they were worth any beans to begin with.
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I agree. But what if you actually ARE a victim and ARE oppressed?... then the system still exists, and something must be done to change the attitudes on the part of the dominant majority... just dunno how, exactly.
I'm not saying there aren't any real victims of oppression. I just think that, for example, the current racial oppression in Darfur and the racial profiling that happens in the US (like black men getting pulled over more often because they look 'suspicious' in nice cars) are two very different branches of the same tree. Yes, they are both examples of oppression. But using a heavy handed, revolution-style approach - which is appropriate for a situation like Darfur - on racial profiling in the US (e.g. radical 'people of color' and "social justice" groups today) is like taking a chainsaw to the tiniest branches of a tree. In the end, I think exerting so much muscle where it isn't necessary is not helping anybody. IMO, "social justice" groups in the US in the past couple of decades have only been reinforcing the idea that the people who get the short end of the stick are fundamentally different from everyone else... and the message that American "the oppressors" (aka everyone else) are getting, unconscious though it may be, is that people who look different should be treated that way, too.
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