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Originally Posted by pan6467
I see, Dems suck so you will blindly follow the GOP. Even if it means they pass more harsher laws and are just as invasive (if not more so on some issues) against states rights?
I truly don't understand this "conservative" ideology that is being bandied about by the GOP. They use a couple issues and promises yet the "Neo-Cons" control your party and true conservativism and the Barry Goldwater (who at one time was considered the leader of conservativism) are simply ignored. Such as less federal involvement, a more cost conscious government with less red tape.... and so on.
The GOP long ago sold its soul to the Religious Right in order to gain power and in doing so has made promises that goes against Barry Goldwater's conservativism.
What you have now is the very wealthy and the religious right dictating how they want the government. I'm not saying the Dems of 20-30 years ago were not in the same boat with the radical left, but the Dem Party is changing with the times and more and more Dems are socially liberal and fiscally conservative..... which believe it or not the vast majority of people are. The problem is POWER, the religious right uses fear, the rich use the old cliches of how taxes burden them down, and the Neo-Cons use voices like Limbaugh to discredit the Dems.
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I find this last paragraph LAUGHABLE to the highest degree, you are asserting that the DEMOCRATS are the ones riding with the will of the people?! I suppose this accounts for the two presidential elections, a majority of governers seats, and the fact that the republicans have actually picked up more seats in the congress in the last two elections. People are not "socially liberal" as you would assume or like, that's why sadly the righteous right has had such a successful movement. Most people don't like a lot of the "hardcore" shit some dems, the ones with the most clout it seems (Kennedy, Feinstein, Boxer), stand for and the direction they are moving. Look at Clinton, she is becoming more centerist, because it's the only viable way to win the presidency, if she ran on her true platform of convictions she would lose in a landslide election.
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But it's all a penduulum and in the 60's and 70's the punduulum swung very left..... the 80's it swung towards the center and now it has swung very right and is trying to start to swing back to center. But the Religious Right and the Neo Cons voices are trying very hard to drive fear into the mix and keep the penuulum from moving..... it may slow it down a bit.
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I'll admit that nothing lasts forever, and I more or less agree with your assesment of the pendulum, I just think you may be briefly over stating it's current position, I guess we will know fore sure come 2006.
And for the record, I don't blindly follow the GOP, do you blindly follow the DFL? I put my weight behind the party I feel better represents me and that can do so effectively.