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Old 05-03-2005, 01:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Judge rules 13 year old Florida Girl can have abortion

Please read the story before commenting.

The basics here are a 13yr old in state custody got pregnant, and petitioned the court for the right to have an abortion.
After much struggle, the court has given the go ahead, but Child Protective services is taking great issue with this since they are her gaurdians.

I have several thoughts on this.
If she had the child, who would pay for it since she is a ward of the state?
Who pays for the abortion?
As she was statuatorly raped (being 13 she is not able to give consent), she can petition for the abortion under the rape clause

So my thoughts?
She should have the abortion. She has a right to the abortion actually. The state of Florida would willing pay more of my tax money to support a child before they would pay for an abortion.
Further, why is no one asking how DCS lost this child, thus allowing her to get pregnant in the first place? If I was the judge, I'd require the departments funds be used to pay for the abortion as a public shaming of loosing the child to begin with.

I respect those that feel that this is very wrong.
So my question(s) for those that do is this:
Who should pay for the child if it was born?
Could a 13 year old be a good mother?
Does her statatury rape meet the justification of being "raped", thus allowing her petition?
Please be more specific than "Abortion is bad / Abortion is wrong for ______ reason!"


For those that agree with the courts action;
Why do you agree? Please be more specific than "Because abortion should be legal"
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Quote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/rights_ab...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl

MIAMI (Reuters) - Florida dropped its fight on Tuesday to prevent a 13-year-old girl in state care from having an abortion in a case that marked the state's second recent foray into controversial personal rights issues.

Weeks after it unsuccessfully tried to intervene in the bitter dispute over the fate of a brain-damaged woman, Terri Schiavo, the state's Department of Children & Families said it would not appeal a ruling from a Palm Beach state court allowing the teenager to have an abortion.

"There will be no further appeals and we will respectfully comply with the court's decision," DCF District Manager Marilyn Munoz said in a written statement.

It was not immediately known if the girl, who is 14 weeks pregnant, had had the abortion.

The case stirred concerns among civil libertarians who argued the child had a constitutional right to decide to have an abortion under state law and condemned the Florida government's attempts to interfere in personal rights.

"You've got to be blind not to see a pattern here," said Howard Simon, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida. "The pattern is the state's hostility to the exercise of personal freedom ... when that personal freedom is not consistent with the prevailing ideology of the state government."

Florida's governor is Jeb Bush, President Bush's younger brother, who was active in trying to keep Schiavo alive and who has said he personally opposes abortion.

"It's a tragedy that a 13-year-old child would be in a vulnerable position where she could be made pregnant and it's a tragedy that her baby will be lost," Jeb Bush said on Tuesday. "There's no good news in this at all."

The child, identified in court only as L.G., is a ward of the state who became pregnant when she ran away from a state-licensed group home. Under Florida law, a 13-year-old cannot consent to sex, making her pregnancy the result of a statutory rape.

LEGAL GUARDIAN SAYS NO

The Department of Children & Families, her legal guardian after her parents' rights were terminated, petitioned the courts to block an abortion, arguing she was not mature enough to make such a choice.

It cited a state statute that says: "In no case shall the department consent to sterilization, abortion or termination of life support."

Florida law, however, allows minors to choose to have abortions. Critics of the DCF action argued that the child's constitutional right overrode any conflicting state statute.

"The constitutional right belongs to the child, and it belongs to the child even if the parents object," said Mary Coombs, a family law professor at the University of Miami. "In this case, DCF didn't have any more right than the parents."

The DCF legal effort marked the second time in recent weeks the state welfare agency had tried to intervene in a high-profile case involving personal rights issues.

It petitioned the courts to take custody of Terri Schiavo, the subject of a controversial right-to-die case in which her parents fought for years against attempts by her husband to remove her feeding tube and allow her to die.

Critics condemned attempts by Jeb Bush to intervene in a family dispute in which courts had repeatedly ruled in favor of Schiavo's husband Michael, who said he was carrying out his wife's wishes. Terri Schiavo died on March 31.

In the abortion case, Palm Beach County Judge Ronald Alvarez, who temporarily blocked the abortion last week, ruled on Monday that the girl could have the procedure over the objections of the DCF, her guardian.

Mathew Staver, president of Orlando, Florida-based Liberty Counsel, a conservative advocacy group, said he was disappointed by the state's decision not to pursue appeals.

"A second opinion is clearly warranted in a case where life and death is at stake," he said. "An appellate court should look at whether or not the girl is mature enough to make a decision like this."
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