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Old 04-30-2005, 02:23 PM   #110 (permalink)
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these quantities mean nothing. I'm much more interested in what this "stat" means by "affected." Does this count the roads in and out or the number of people working and living on this "affected" land. I'm reminded of the last election map with the red and blue counties so often bantered about by the right, as if our democracy was based on the control of unpopulated stretches of land. I understand Americans are poor with geography, but seriously.
Okay, I'll phrase it differently. We're talking about using .01% of the ANWR. The agreement signed by Jimmy Carter permitted the use of much more in return for doubling the size of it in 1977.


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Surely this must be tax revenue as we all know that this oil will be sold to the more profitable Chinese market to help build their industry. Interesting to see conservatives tout federal tax revenues as a positive.
It would be helpful if you would justify your assertion that we're going to sell this oil to China.


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Oh I can just feel the roulette wheel spinning right to our number! By all accounts it's foolhardy to expect some miracle buried in the soil of ANWR.
Wouldn't it be easier just to say you don't understand geological surveys?


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No clue what "north slope" refers to. Shouldn't this serve as warning as to how limited our oil resources are? Not a call for more expansive drilling, but one for technological innovation.
If you're not familiar with the North Slope and Prudhoe Bay, the depth of your knowledge on the subject is highly suspect, as well.


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ANWR stands for Artic National Wildlife Refuge. Each American is entitled to their share of our national parks and reserves upon birth. This decision is not one to be made by Alaskans only.
The point is that Alaskans have been able to observe the results of oil drilling in their state, and 75% of them don't think it's too bad. Therefore, the decision shouldn't be made solely by pasty New York "environmentalists," either.


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Wow an additional 735,000 people introduced to the area with relatively no environmental impact? Think of all the jobs we could create by clearcutting Yosemite! Lets dam the grand canyon! "More jobs" has been the calling card for virtually every environmental travesty in our nations history.
Easy to say, as long as it's not YOUR job. But it might be, considering the influence the supply of oil has on our economy.

Oh, and comparing .01% of the ANWR to "clearcutting Yosemite" is exactly the kind of environmental extremism that works against your position.


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If this oil were destined for American consumption, which it's not, it would do little to meet the need for 20 million barrels per day
NO matter how many times you say it, it's still not true.


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- NO NEGATIVE IMPACT ON WILDLIFE - the Central Arctic Caribou Herd which migrates through Prudhoe Bay has grown form 3000 animals to over 32,000 since the north shore development.



Bullshit-o-meter is off the charts on this one. Are we supposed to believe that oil prospecting has a positive impact on wildlife? Look at the wonders it's done for Prince William sound...
It was posted in the (forlorn) hope that you would UNDERSTAND that the dire predictions of wildlife being wiped out were, as you would say, "off the bullshit-o-meter charts."

By the way, oil prospecting had nothing to do with the damage to Prince William Sound. Your reasoning is like blaming American Airlines for 9/11.


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Given the national security considerations, the high price of gas and the instability of our oil supplies how can the democratic party be against development of ANWR?



Conservation is not solely a partisan issue. How can many Americans be opposed to oil prospecting in ANWR? Perhaps because it will do nothing to aleve our oil supply woes, will not change the price we pay for gas, and is not worth tampering with our largest patch of undisturbed wilderness so fatass fucks can continue to have the convenience of taking the SUV out for another solo midnight run to Taco Bell. Please let me know what "national security considerations" are caused by the continued inactivity of oil prospectors in ANWR, I'm at a loss there.
Perhaps someone with more patience than I would like to jump in now. The national security implications are so basic that it's annoying to be asked for them.
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