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Originally Posted by shakran
I'm sorry. I had thought it obvious that there's a marked difference in behavior between a kid who talks in class and a kid who tears up the room and tries to hit the teacher.
The kids that get sent to last chance are the kids that do not respond to the disciplinary methods in the regular school. If the kid talks in class, you tell him to stop. If that doesn't work, you punish him somehow. You continue to escallate the punishment until the point is reached that you can't escallate it any further. And then, yes, if the talking is that disruptive and he won't stop no matter what you do to him, he's shipped out.
Either give the school the power to discipline for real (grabbing kids who are fighting would be a good start, court supported community service rather than suspensions/detentions would be a great way to go) or understand that, since parents as a group have sued the schools out of that ability, the schools will have to ship problems elsewhere.
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But you've just defeated your own arguments! This disciplinary methods very likely involved this type of escalation that she hadn't reached suspension/explusion on, even outright fighting rarely results in suspension/expulsion for a first offense, so why shouldn't this girl still have been in class for the second occurence, having been given a chance to hopefully correct the problem.
I do want to say though that I agree with you otherwise, so much so that I intend to give written permission to my childrens teachers to intervene and/or punish if necessary if I ever get a report of my children misbehaving in school where I feel that my kids need to gain respect for their teachers. I'm not saying I condone them beating the crap out of some kid, but giving them the option to pick them up, haul them out of class, and either spank them or put them alone in a corner somewhere would go a long way for building a healthy respect that I really feel is lacking.