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Originally Posted by guy44
lebell, I don't think there are any actual examples of teachers keeping kids from praying or having bibles in school. If there are, they are isolated incidents of misguided individuals. Liberals have no problem with Christianity. Most of us are Christian.
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This wasn't directed at me, but I'm gonna step in. It isn't teachers alone, but also judges and parents who want to grab headlines.
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The religious right is one of the most powerful organizations in the U.S. They run the White House and Congress. "Radical liberals" are...what? Can you even name ONE organization that would qualify? One liberal organization or group pushing to eliminate the right to pray in school?
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I would highly disagree with the "religious right" being in control as much as you think. And as for radical liberal groups? ACLU, PETA, GLAAD, hell much of the rhetoric from the DNC is quite radical.
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The religious right are a highly organized group of radicals dedicated to forcing everyone in the United States to become Christian. Liberals have no such goal of, what? Forcing everyone to be atheists? Gay?
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Exactly. Radical liberals want to destroy Christianity and anything associated with morality (or at least isolate those with Christian faith from participating in society) and want everyone to embrace the gay lifestyle.
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The religious right has TV shows, fundraisers, elected officials, televangelists, and more. The left has no such apparatus, and even if it did, I don't know what end it would strive for.
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The left has network news, all of pop culture, elected officials, fundraisers, NY Times, LA Times, etc. The ends they seek I listed above.
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The point is, the religious right is WAY WAY WAY further from centrists than liberals are. At most, you could point to...Bernie Sanders? I mean, liberal beliefs are fairly moderate compared to the religious right.
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You think that because you are liberal, therefore their beliefs seem more centrist. And if you really think that the religious right has as much control of gov't as you said above, it seems that most people would agree with me.
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In conclusion, the religious right has no liberal counterpart. Because liberals in the U.S. want sensible things like universal health care, more progressive taxes, and an increased focus on the environment. The large and powerful religous right wants to force one religion upon everyone. This just isn't a case of both sides being equally bad at the extremes.
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I like how in your conclusion you totally switched the focus of the argument. Those issues aren't the ones that make liberals radical (although some of the enviromentalists are quite out there). And universal health care is only sensible if you can find people to pay for it. You can ignore the truth, but the left is just as bent on forcing their beliefs as the right is.
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EDIT - Let's not forget that the radical right pushes bigotry towards gays as standard rhetoric. Ther religious right is 100 times further to the right than liberals are to the left.
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Don't forget they also push bigotry toward poligamists, child molesters, drug addicts, murderers, and terrorists. The point being that if you use the term "bigot" to describe anyone who disapproves of someone's actions, it loses it's value.