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Old 04-27-2005, 09:51 AM   #9 (permalink)
liquidlight
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Originally Posted by sweetpea
That is what this leg. is trying to obtain. Poltically, a voice must be made for those in the margins of societal norms. That is what this leg. is intending to do. Having a spouse that works for MS, I am disappointed the MS corp. decided to withdrawl support this year on this bill, being a massive employer, they do have clout in the political system.
I have nothing against adjusting the current legistlation to correct these discrepancies, what I object to is that this particular legistlation exchanges one discrimination for another. MS has no business backing ANY legislation in my opinion, they should simply foster their own internal policies in such a fashion to be non-discriminatory across the board. It is not a corporations duty or right to influence legistlation at all, that's how we ended up with things like the carpet-baggers with congress in their pockets in days gone by and why there are serious limitations on campaign finance!


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Originally Posted by sweetpea
How exactly does this foster resentment and hostility in you?? It's not like anyone is asking you to be involved in it . . . you could just as easily ignore it and look the other way . . .
Because it personally influences my life and the way that I interact with the company that I work for. The last thing that I need is the insurance companies that you're using as an example to have a new excuse to increase my rates based on what they claim were adjustments that they had to make to conform with this legistlation. As a pre-emptive argument a bill similar to this has been presented in my state legislature every year for nearly a decade, this article was just an example.

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Um . . . you would get thrown in jail for having a "hetro. pride" rally? I think not. What makes you think this?
Have you ever seen some of the gay-pride parades? Like Cyn said, if I had a hetero-pride parade where I went walking down the street in nothing but a pair of penis-cuffs (yes it DOES happen quite often) I'd be arrested and jailed for indecency.

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Originally Posted by sweetpea
Yes, i would support it. Because it is making the playing field even . . . we're not all "equal" in the eyes of society or the political system whether or not you would like to believe that. I am assuming you are in the majority culture, and with that perspective, you think everything is equal . . . but do you get turned down for apartments because of your partner? Do you get denied access to things based on your sexuality? These are things that happen every day to individuals who are not in the majority, and i'm not just talking sexuality . . . i'm saying any minority, cultural or otherwise. And we need legislation to MAKE things equal.

I see partially where you are coming from here . . . but we're not all equal and to get there . . . as you noted where everyone thinks it's none of their damn business, we need legislation.
No, I get denied things based on my credit rating, but that's another rant. I KNOW that very little in this world is equal, but that's what I'm suggesting is wrong with these bills, rather than fostering equality they are creating a specific segregation based on a particular groups beliefs. If you qualify one group over another for a particular characteristic how is that equal? I would love to see legislation to MAKE things equal but a bill like this doesn't do that, all it does is elevate a particular sect of society above another and move the problem to a new angle.


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