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Old 04-27-2005, 12:25 AM   #125 (permalink)
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Nor am I, but I am able to have a discussion in which I remain emotionally disconnected from the unnecessary, emotional variables. We are talking about rights and legality and multiple grey areas, where not every scenario involves your pieces of shit.
There are very few issues that I see as black and white. This is one of them. If a child results from your sexual activities you need to be an adult about it and play a role in that child's life. Although it's best to be there as a parent emotionally, I will accept a simple financial contribution. If you refuse to do either, it makes you the lowest form of life possible.

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1. Actually, yes, men can breastfeed if need be. It's well documented.
2. "Superior" is a bit of a lofty term....
3. Studies conducted to relate the psychological impacts of the breast vs. the bottle....
4. I think there are hundreds of thousands of fathers who would curse you out for saying a man is not as good at being a parent as a woman...
5. I never said anyone SHOULD dodge responsibility, what I'm merely trying to say is that childbirth is a 50/50 deal, regardless...
1. Although yes, it's possible in some cases, after extreme work it is possible for men to lactate in small quantities. However, the volume is not sufficient to sustain a child.

2. and 3. Best is still better than perfectly good. There are many things contained in breast milk that cannot be properly reproduced in formula. I'll leave it at that since there is no point in digging up sources that can be refuted by other sources and then re-refuted by other sources and on and on.

4. I never said that men cannot be just as good at parenting then men, I'm sorry if you interpreted my post as saying so. Men can do just as well, however women are designed by nature to take care of infants with no outside assistance. Men are not. It's a fact of nature. Once a baby moves past that time they are completely equal.

I can't believe you brought up infanticide. It is so rare that it is statistically insignificant. There are a lot of babies born each year, out of several million births each year I'm sure there is much less than 1,000 cases where a parent murders the child. You can't base any arguement on statistical outliers.

5. Women do not have 'numerous ways of getting out of their responsibility' There is abortion, adoption (if both parents want out), or giving the child to the father. If the father wants it, the mother is bound to provide financial support at a minimum. Men have adoption (if both agree), or giving the child up to the mother and providing financial support. My math tells me women have one more option. That's hardly numerous, right? If the two can reach an agreement that one takes all child raising and financial responsibility, that is their right.

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No one calls a woman a "deadbeat mom" if she leaves a child with the father.
If she leaves and provides no financial support, then I sure as hell do.

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I think you are way off there. White men are able to experience racism and sexism. If a black boss denies you a promotion because you are white, that is a form of racism. If you want to say that one person projecting that on another is prejudice, not racism you are splitting hairs. The end result is the same.
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