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pan6467 · 04-26-2005, 06:49 AM

In all honesty, my opinion is the GOP loves to bash the Left and the Left bashes the GOP and both sides do not want to admit that people make mistakes in youth or the sins of the father SHOULD NEVER CARRY to the son.

This is just mental masterbation and bullshit. Better the fucking country TODAY. You put a foot in yesterday and a foot in tomorrow you piss and shit all over today.

It's not just here it's in politics in general, everyone wants to look at the past or the future and we are in desperate need of looking at today and preparing better for a future, but we need to fix today first, by learning from the past and not condemning or bringing up old wounds and hatreds.

My father once told me, "Presidents don't get to be presidents by being nice guys, they step on people and they do whatever is necessary to attain power."

The only possible saint we have had as president in my lifetime is Carter, and even then I'm sure he has skeletons. Every president from Washington to G.W. has done what they thought best for the country (no matter how warped or wrong the thinking was, they did what they felt was right.)

Can any of you or can Limbaugh or O'Reilly or whomever say the same, that you are bettering the country to the best of your abilities or are you spreading hatred, anger, prejudice and bitterness?

As for Vietnam........... GODDAMN IT PEOPLE GET THE FUCK OVER IT, HALF OF YOU CRYING ABOUT HOW EVIL AND TREASONOUS KERRY AND FONDA AND SUCH WERE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TRULY HAPPENED IN THAT ERA (BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T BORN OR TOO YOUNG TO KNOW), AND YOU MAY AT THE TIME HAVE DONE THE SAME THINGS. ALL YOU ARE DOING IS BRINGING UP OLD WOUNDS TO FURTHER YOUR OWN FUCKING POLITICAL AGENDAS.

Vietnam was wrong, the reason we were there, the way the government treated the troops, the lies the government fed the people, and so on. It wasn't the soldier's fault they did what they thought best, just as the protesters believed they did what was best........ GET THE FUCK OVER IT AND LET THE DAMN ISSUE DIE.

Learn from the past so that we may not repeat it, but do not EVER condemn a man for doing what he thought was best for his country. Goddamn you people want to make some of these people mentioned worse than Hitler.... something is fucking wrong.

04-26-2005, 06:49 AM	#39 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	In all honesty, my opinion is the GOP loves to bash the Left and the Left bashes the GOP and both sides do not want to admit that people make mistakes in youth or the sins of the father SHOULD NEVER CARRY to the son. This is just mental masterbation and bullshit. Better the fucking country TODAY. You put a foot in yesterday and a foot in tomorrow you piss and shit all over today. It's not just here it's in politics in general, everyone wants to look at the past or the future and we are in desperate need of looking at today and preparing better for a future, but we need to fix today first, by learning from the past and not condemning or bringing up old wounds and hatreds. My father once told me, "Presidents don't get to be presidents by being nice guys, they step on people and they do whatever is necessary to attain power." The only possible saint we have had as president in my lifetime is Carter, and even then I'm sure he has skeletons. Every president from Washington to G.W. has done what they thought best for the country (no matter how warped or wrong the thinking was, they did what they felt was right.) Can any of you or can Limbaugh or O'Reilly or whomever say the same, that you are bettering the country to the best of your abilities or are you spreading hatred, anger, prejudice and bitterness? As for Vietnam........... GODDAMN IT PEOPLE GET THE FUCK OVER IT, HALF OF YOU CRYING ABOUT HOW EVIL AND TREASONOUS KERRY AND FONDA AND SUCH WERE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TRULY HAPPENED IN THAT ERA (BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T BORN OR TOO YOUNG TO KNOW), AND YOU MAY AT THE TIME HAVE DONE THE SAME THINGS. ALL YOU ARE DOING IS BRINGING UP OLD WOUNDS TO FURTHER YOUR OWN FUCKING POLITICAL AGENDAS. Vietnam was wrong, the reason we were there, the way the government treated the troops, the lies the government fed the people, and so on. It wasn't the soldier's fault they did what they thought best, just as the protesters believed they did what was best........ GET THE FUCK OVER IT AND LET THE DAMN ISSUE DIE. Learn from the past so that we may not repeat it, but do not EVER condemn a man for doing what he thought was best for his country. Goddamn you people want to make some of these people mentioned worse than Hitler.... something is fucking wrong. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?" Last edited by pan6467; 04-26-2005 at 06:56 AM..