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Originally Posted by hypnotic4502
shadowaster you stated that everything that exists has a creator,then who created god?
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As I'm sure you're aware, one of the traditional arguments for the existence of God is that everything has to have a cause. But even if the sequence of events in the universe were infinite (ie, there was no starting point), the sequence itself would require a cause. Since we don't just want to go around in circles here, it makes sense to posit a being, such that he is his own cause. Let's call that being God. The short version is that God is his own creator.
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1.it's illogical to believe that he wouldn't create anything.(he would be perfect,complete have no desires,no emotions and have no need to.)
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Who says perfection can't have desires? God certainly didn't have to create, but he wanted to. But it's not like this made him more perfect.
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2.perfection can't create imperfection(if something is perfect nothing imperfect can come from it)
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I'm not even sure this is true. But, even if it is, it still doesn't apply. God created a perfect world. It's us that mucked it up.
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3.concerning freewill if god is omnipotent he could have easily created humans with freewill that didn't have the ability to choose evil
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Nope. Free will entails that free choices are up to us, not up to God. OTOH, for a more complicated view, check out my thread on Molinism. I'm sure it's around here somewhere.
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4.god is supposedly omniscient.when he created the universe,he saw the suffering which humans would go through as a result of the sin of those original humans.he heard the screams of the damned,he knew of the supposed eternal suffering.a perfectly compassionate being who creates beings which he knows are doomed to suffer is impossible.
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Eh. I'm not sure what to say about this; as a Christian, I am saddened by the fact that there are some who will go to hell. I know God is saddened as well. But he doesn't force anyone to go to hell, and so I'm not sure what your claim here amounts to.
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5.god is supposed to be a just god,but he sentences the imperfect humans he created to infinite suffering in hell for finite sins.clearly this limited offense doesnt warrant the punishment.
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They might be finite sins, but they're sins against an infinite being. Moreover, it's more the state of one's heart that God considers, and as long as that remains the same, God is justified in keeping you away from him. I've even thought that heaven and hell are the same place, but while the good enjoy God's presence, the evil cannot stand it.
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6.consider all the people that live in remote regions of the world that have never heard of jesus christ, etc.
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Yeah, yeah. No one knows what happens to these people. God, in his perfect justice, would be right in sending these people to hell, just as he would be right in sending me to hell. But we know that God loves all of mankind, and so it's entirely possible that some of these will be saved. We believe that those who trust in God will be saved; we know that those who reject God will be condemned. But we don't know about those who have never heard the good news, whether because they live in a remote location, or because they were prevented from hearing because of events in their own life.