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pan6467 · 04-21-2005, 05:31 PM

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Nowhere in my post did I say ignore these issues. In fact I stated examine the past find out what worked use it, what didn't work and find out why.

Look, I wasn't around in the 1930's and 40's, but if Prescott Bush dealt with the Nazis then he dealt with the Nazis, I refuse to hold the crimes of the father against the son. Not to mention we would also have to bust Ford, Chrysler (as they are part of Mercedes and they were Nazis), and so on. My guess is a lot of American companies did business with Hitler at first because Germany was the first country to bust out of the Depression that was hitting the world, and thus Germany was the place to sell your product and make profit. To point fingers at people wanting to do business with the only country that could truly afford to do business is pushing a POLITICAL AGENDA and self righteous BS and serves no other purpose.

As for Fonda and Kerry, they did what many in that era did or would have done had they had the platform. Look at all the marches, riots, draft card burnings, draft dodging.... to yip about what Fonda and Kerry did is POLITICAL FINGERPOINTING and serves no other purpose than to try to be self righteous and push your own agenda. It's BS.

As for Iran-Contra, I don't know. Our government has done many bad and illegal things in it's history to promote one party over another. What happened happened.... fingerpointing bullshit is not going to get anyone anywhere. LEARNING from the past however, can and will.

Perhaps, IF Iran-Contra is all fact based we can learn that because of this, Saddam had issues with us, the Central American nations could feel used and we can learn that interfering with other nations politics and sovereignity leads to bad things.

I"m sorry, I just honestly don't see a positive from finger pointing, rehashing old wounds and not looking for solutions but using past issues solely as an excuse to hurt another. There's nothing to learn there, except hatred and passing blame.

04-21-2005, 05:31 PM	#31 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Host, Nowhere in my post did I say ignore these issues. In fact I stated examine the past find out what worked use it, what didn't work and find out why. Look, I wasn't around in the 1930's and 40's, but if Prescott Bush dealt with the Nazis then he dealt with the Nazis, I refuse to hold the crimes of the father against the son. Not to mention we would also have to bust Ford, Chrysler (as they are part of Mercedes and they were Nazis), and so on. My guess is a lot of American companies did business with Hitler at first because Germany was the first country to bust out of the Depression that was hitting the world, and thus Germany was the place to sell your product and make profit. To point fingers at people wanting to do business with the only country that could truly afford to do business is pushing a POLITICAL AGENDA and self righteous BS and serves no other purpose. As for Fonda and Kerry, they did what many in that era did or would have done had they had the platform. Look at all the marches, riots, draft card burnings, draft dodging.... to yip about what Fonda and Kerry did is POLITICAL FINGERPOINTING and serves no other purpose than to try to be self righteous and push your own agenda. It's BS. As for Iran-Contra, I don't know. Our government has done many bad and illegal things in it's history to promote one party over another. What happened happened.... fingerpointing bullshit is not going to get anyone anywhere. LEARNING from the past however, can and will. Perhaps, IF Iran-Contra is all fact based we can learn that because of this, Saddam had issues with us, the Central American nations could feel used and we can learn that interfering with other nations politics and sovereignity leads to bad things. I"m sorry, I just honestly don't see a positive from finger pointing, rehashing old wounds and not looking for solutions but using past issues solely as an excuse to hurt another. There's nothing to learn there, except hatred and passing blame. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"