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hypnotic4502 · 04-21-2005, 11:18 AM

i have a strong doubt of gods existance due to his somewhat changing nature in the bible.in the old testament he was full of wrath,condoned murder,rape and slavery.

old testament :

"The Lord was grieved that he had made man on the Earth, and his heart was filled with pain. So I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the Earth- men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air- for I am grieved that I have made them."
..........Genesis 6:6-7

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
-Deuteronomy 20:10-14

"When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be punished; for the slave is his money."
-Exodus 21:20

"Happy shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock!"
-Psalms 137:9

"Behold, I will corrupt your seed and spread dung upon your faces..."
-Malachi 2:3

those are pretty bad........lol

but i dont like what the bible has to say about women's right either in the new testament:

"As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silence in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church."
-1 Corinthians 14:34

"Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor."
-Timothy 2:11

come to think of it jesus wasnt exactly a peaceful god,reading his scriptures:

"If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple."
..........Luke 14:26

"If a man does not abide in me, he is cast forth as a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire and burned."
..........John 15:6

this might be off topic but its one of my favorite quotes

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
- Epicurus

04-21-2005, 11:18 AM	#65 (permalink)
hypnotic4502 Upright Location: outside of Tulsa,Oklahoma	i have a strong doubt of gods existance due to his somewhat changing nature in the bible.in the old testament he was full of wrath,condoned murder,rape and slavery. old testament : "The Lord was grieved that he had made man on the Earth, and his heart was filled with pain. So I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the Earth- men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air- for I am grieved that I have made them." ..........Genesis 6:6-7 As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you. -Deuteronomy 20:10-14 "When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be punished; for the slave is his money." -Exodus 21:20 "Happy shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock!" -Psalms 137:9 "Behold, I will corrupt your seed and spread dung upon your faces..." -Malachi 2:3 those are pretty bad........lol but i dont like what the bible has to say about women's right either in the new testament: "As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silence in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church." -1 Corinthians 14:34 "Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor." -Timothy 2:11 come to think of it jesus wasnt exactly a peaceful god,reading his scriptures: "If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple." ..........Luke 14:26 "If a man does not abide in me, he is cast forth as a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire and burned." ..........John 15:6 this might be off topic but its one of my favorite quotes Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - Epicurus __________________ Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived. -Isaac Asimov Last edited by hypnotic4502; 04-21-2005 at 11:38 AM..