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Old 04-21-2005, 06:03 AM   #24 (permalink)
Phage
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Originally Posted by robbdn
...It exists as part of our experience of the world, but it is not absolute or consistent, it changes.
I would not say that objective reality is not to be doubted or questioned, although it is quite possible that it is not always consistent. Our perception of objective reality can be questioned but objective reality itself is unquestionable due to the trump card of existing.




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Originally Posted by robbdn
Absolute reality, however, is the concept of a reality that governs all other forms of reality. It is that which causes in the subject a perception of reality that does not conform with objective reality.... ...The manner through which we suspect the existence of something that does not exist within the phenomenal realm is often referred to as sublime, or rapture. These concepts are pretty well known, but one thing that these experiences impart is the illusion of having gained some new knowledge, when that knowledge is not there to be gained. It leads us to suspect the existence of something we cannot detect, what I will call absolute reality.
I would call this concept "Spiritual Reality", and not really pertinent to the issue at hand. You seem to be talking about a reality that is "Perfect in quality or nature; complete" while I was just using it as meaning "Not to be doubted or questioned". We (if I understand the issue) are talking about the distinction between things that actually exist and the concept of things that exist inside a person's mind. If your version of Absolute reality changes what Objective reality consists of then that aspect is treated as part of Objective reality, and if it creates in you a sense of things that is different from Objective reality then it is a part of Subjective reality.
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