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robbdn · 04-20-2005, 05:04 AM

Hope you guys aren't completely bored with MGS threads by now, but I had a very strange experience recently.

Recently, I decided to start listening to audio books to put me to sleep. I'm on my second one now, which just happens to be "The Bourne Identity" by Robert Ludlum (1980). So, if you have only seen the movies, and not the books, none of this is going to make any sense at all to you. The Bourne movies and books are completely different, and I really can't emphasize that enough.

Okay, so I was listening to these audio books, and I swear to whatever you happen to believe in that at one point in the book the US government changes David Webb's code-name (aka Jason Bourne) to Solid Snake. The problem is, I'm listening to this stuff while I'm half-asleep, and I seem to have some trouble locating the exact passage where this occurs. Can anybody else confirm this?

Hearing this, or at least thinking that I hear this, inspired me to do a little completely pointless thinking, after all, that is what speculation about this game is. Unfortunately, speculating about the game is almost as much fun as the game itself. Regardless, if this is true, the way Robert Ludlum's story works into Hideo Kojima's story and timeline is rather uncanny. Nearly to the point that one could insinuate that David Webb is in fact Big Boss. The timeline's of the two characters match up almost perfectly, as far as I can tell, as are many coincidences throughout the two franchises. I'll keep working on the details, but I don't want to provide them right now, hope to hear from people who are familiar with both characters and plots to see what kind of feedback comes up.

I guess the bottom line is, I know that Hideo Kojima loves to borrow (steal) from other sources to create intertextual and immersive plotlines, full of double and triple entendres thanks to pop-culture references. Does it seem that unbelievable that before he sat down to make the original Metal Gear he somehow got his hands on a translated Bourne Identity and a copy of Escape from L.A. and decided to make a franchise based on these characters? And that because of his crazy and intense nature he tried to actually make it all fit in to the Bourne plotline?

04-20-2005, 05:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
robbdn Crazy	Dave (Solid Snake) and David (Jason Bourne) Hope you guys aren't completely bored with MGS threads by now, but I had a very strange experience recently. Recently, I decided to start listening to audio books to put me to sleep. I'm on my second one now, which just happens to be "The Bourne Identity" by Robert Ludlum (1980). So, if you have only seen the movies, and not the books, none of this is going to make any sense at all to you. The Bourne movies and books are completely different, and I really can't emphasize that enough. Okay, so I was listening to these audio books, and I swear to whatever you happen to believe in that at one point in the book the US government changes David Webb's code-name (aka Jason Bourne) to Solid Snake. The problem is, I'm listening to this stuff while I'm half-asleep, and I seem to have some trouble locating the exact passage where this occurs. Can anybody else confirm this? Hearing this, or at least thinking that I hear this, inspired me to do a little completely pointless thinking, after all, that is what speculation about this game is. Unfortunately, speculating about the game is almost as much fun as the game itself. Regardless, if this is true, the way Robert Ludlum's story works into Hideo Kojima's story and timeline is rather uncanny. Nearly to the point that one could insinuate that David Webb is in fact Big Boss. The timeline's of the two characters match up almost perfectly, as far as I can tell, as are many coincidences throughout the two franchises. I'll keep working on the details, but I don't want to provide them right now, hope to hear from people who are familiar with both characters and plots to see what kind of feedback comes up. I guess the bottom line is, I know that Hideo Kojima loves to borrow (steal) from other sources to create intertextual and immersive plotlines, full of double and triple entendres thanks to pop-culture references. Does it seem that unbelievable that before he sat down to make the original Metal Gear he somehow got his hands on a translated Bourne Identity and a copy of Escape from L.A. and decided to make a franchise based on these characters? And that because of his crazy and intense nature he tried to actually make it all fit in to the Bourne plotline? __________________ I'm swimming in the digital residue of a media-drenched world. It's too cold.