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Originally Posted by sixate
Why? Because of size? Or is it because of gender? Obviously, the answer is gender. Because certain women here bitch that the man is bigger and he shouldn't hit a woman, but lets go find the biggest dudes possible to now kick the man's ass who just hit the woman. Well, there's a size factor again, yet you don't have a problem with that.... Unbelievable.
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Originally Posted by lurkette
...I think what's bothering people is the automatic assumption that violence is the best solution to this situation. How about a good old-fashioned talk? Calling the police? Taking the person to a domestic violence court, or to a battered women's shelter to observe first hand the path he's put his foot on? Why is it automatically assumed that beating the shit out of him is going to work? You say violence isn't wrong when it prevents further violence from occurring. But it's been my experience that the threat of violence is never really a great deterrent for someone who hits in the heat of anger or is defending him/herself. It just seems like a drastic and unnecessarily barbaric first line of action.
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So, Joe Blow at 5'8" 180lbs. over there is having a argument with his 5'4" 120lb. girlfriend and hauls off and starts punching her in the mouth. Since I'm 6' 240lbs. I should just stand there and let it happen? Or wait, I'm supposed to leave and call the cops and wait for them to show up and stop it? Well, I usually have my cell on me so I guess I could at least stay there and watch while I wait...so what if he gets to stand there and tap-dance on her lip for a good 10 minutes before they show up. I did the right thing by not getting physically involved, didn't I?
This is what I was talking about earlier, you need to stand up for those that can't stand up for themselves. In a fistfight she is going to be all but defenseless against him. The right thing to do is get involved, step right in between them, you don't have to hit him, just make sure he doesn't hit her again. Usually that is enough to get him to stop. He hits me? Oh well, I'm going to be able to take it much better than she can.
I've never started a fight but I have been in my fair share and I can tell you, once that first punch has been throw, all manner of mature conversation is over. You can talk all you want, but its going to be a little harder once your jaw gets broken. People who throw the first punch have already given up on talking things over and the ones that don't use violence as a last resort aren't going to listen to you anyway.
I realize the example I gave is the stereotype of domestic violence and things aren't always this way, so this only applies here. When the situation is different, I react differently because we're talking about a different set of principles. Since the gay couple keeps coming up, no it's not okay then either and I'm still stepping right in between them too. I'm getting involved anytime someone is clearly pushing the boundary to physical violence when they will clearly have the upper hand because that isn't right. And it is just as wrong to just sit idly by and let them do it.