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Originally Posted by MooseMan3000
You don't need a 580w power supply. Seriously. Get a GOOD 350 watt power supply for the same price you'll pay for that silly thing, and you'll be much better off.
And if you're playing ANY 3d games, get a better video card than that.
And, as mentioned, you still need some imprtant parts... a motherboard and a CPU. The computer isn't going to get very far without them.
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Rather it won't go anywhere. Can't even turn the darn thing on without the mobo.
Did you read my statement on PSUs? I know I may come off as the PSU nazi sometimes in certain forums, but I hate seeing people blow money on crappy power supplies that will NEVER put out the type of power they are labeled to do unless you operate outside in the winter at the North Pole. They just overheat and start to die after a couple of weeks. I was conned once in the past by people selling poor quality PSUs, and have had countless friend, relatives, and acquaintances suffer. I had a friend spend over $300 on power supplies over the course of 2 and a half years. For that much money he could have bought arguably the best power supply made in terms of reliability, stability, voltage consistency, and longevity the first time around and save himself a lot of time. Ditch that power supply for an Antec Smartpower 350W or something by Enermax or Thermaltake. Don't be like one of those people who build a "god system" and put a CompUSA brand "Extreme Performance 600W Power Supply" in there. You'd be amazed at how much an quality Antec SmartPower 300W can handle. I had an AMD Athlon XP 2100+, 1 gig of DDR, high end graphics card (at the time high end), CD-RW drive, DVD-ROM drive, and a total of 6 80mm case fans plus a high performance Thermaltake heatsink on an overclocked CPU; all of them powered by a QUALITY 300watt power supply until the darn thing got struck by lightning. Never seen a surge protector explode until that day.
Upgrade the vid card if you are doing any "gaming" more advanced than Tetris or Bejeweled. If those types of games fit inyo your "gaming" category, just get you an nVidia GeForce 4 MX 440 (64MB of ram or higher). If you mean Quake 3 gaming, get a ATI Radeon 9800 or 9800 Pro. Best bang for your buck for a budget system.
And on RAM... the stuff can be expensive if it's higher speed DDR. Look at your mobo and CPU options here. You don't wanna buy a motherboard and processor that use some expensive as hell RAM (ex. RD-RAM $400 for 512 MB stick).
And if you get the right motherboard, that sound card wouldn't even be needed. Get a decent mobo, and the onboard quality would be just as good (probably better judging from the fact that I've never heard of the sound card manufacturer) as the card you have your eye on.
And one more thing... GIVE US SOME INFO! Help us help you. Really, just answer these.
1. What type of games are you gonna play?
2. What CPU and mother board are you getting?
3. Give us a list of changed or added items from the first list or a whole new one.
4. What type of budget are you working with here? We don't care about your personal finances, how much you make, etc.. We just need to know how much do you A) plan on spending or B) can afford to realistically spend. Shipping can add alot to a PC build's price. Certain places, such as
ZipZoomFly.com offer free 2nd day UPS shipping on most items. Sometimes it's better to shop around.
5. Will you be the only one using this? If not, are you interested in having something a little more upgrade friendly, ya know, in case you have kids that get into computer games (Tetris and Solitaire don't count), or just in case you don't feel like doing a complete overhaul and rebuild in three years?