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well, kinkykiwi, what they said was that they would break someone's jaw and things of that nature if they witnessed something in public. one even bragged about hospitalizing someone for slapping a girl.

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Irishsean:
smells like hyperbole: maybe sean was able to determine the girl's broken bones from a distance, perhaps she really flew 6 feet through the air from a backhand, but he didn't stop beating the guy with a 1.5 foot flashlight until the police came to the scene. lovetaps to the head?

Seaver:
Hopefully you never deserve to be slapped, kinkykiwi. And hopefully someone you love who grabs you or slaps you in anger doesn't get killed by someone like this. I have to admit, you are the first woman I have ever met who supported this kind of behavior. All other women I've ever been with and known would be scared shitless to date a person who acted and thought like these two posts indicate. My wife wouldn't be cool seeing me beat the "shit" out of someone, for any reason, or speaking about beating someone unconscious with a maglight as "lovetaps."
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I know what you were talking about. That's why I suggested you talk to some people who are more experienced with violent persons and/or other females who have been abused. Both will tell you that the person who thinks it's fine to prove a point with violence, especially if that person sees masculinity linked to violence, will be more likely to physically abuse a woman in anger. there is a line, and you will one day inadvertadly cross it. that line becomes increasingly easier to cross if the parties are intoxicated.

the rule you are referring to, grew up with, or whatever, that men don't hit women, is an artifact of an addage from paternalistic times: young men grow up thinking their ability to fight, to defend the "weaker sex", to prove points with violence--those are the things that prove their manhood to themselves and to others. unfortunately, many of the men who told their children and nephews this phrase, they were the ones who beat their women when they got home from work, nothing like a man's castle. this is in the research over and over and over again.

none of the people in here who said these posters were acting too violently, myself included, said it was ok to hit women. we just don't carve them out a special niche, preferring instead to urge someone to walk away, restrain someone, or contact law enforement if you feel so compelled to get involved in something after the fact when both parties are calm and apparently came to terms with what occurred. You're blowing sixate's statement way out of context. When he said that a woman acting like a man, he isn't talking about playing football. he was referring to balling up your fists and thowing haymakers like you're in a bar fight. that's what that phrase refers to. then it got twisted on its way down the discussion chain and morphed into sexist statements about working behavior and recreation activities.


People who feel the need to prove points with violence, even if they build up some chivalrous mythology around its use, are people who are capable of justifying violence as long as the cause is something they agree with. The rule against hitting a woman is something they made up as a good enough reason not to do it, hopefully they don't have other reasons that might override it.

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