Thanks for the summary, raveneye
Bottom line here: No one will ever convice me that the Iraqis are somehow worse off now than when they had a muderous psychopath as a leader. It may not be disneyworld over there, but at least we've changed some of it for the better.
However, I will concede, they did lie about why we went over there. We had a million and one good reasons to go over there and take out Saddam, but instead Bush chose to make one up.
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Yes the war on iraq and terror is a complete disaster. We are creating more terrorists by the day. I think they lie so much they believe themselves. I like how Powell says the report was flawed. It seems like every report that comes out that isn't pro war, or that the wars are improving is "flawed."
It seems like these wars are really going no where. We are just fed 'we are fighting for freedom, don't ask questions' it starts to get old. And to think we are gearing up for Iran over the same thing as Iraq  |
Grow some balls, dude. Were doing the right thing by getting rid of these people, and we will have to fight them sooner or later. In the words of Winston Churchill:
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If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is BETTER TO PERISH THAN TO LIVE AS SLAVES.
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